Cyclist aware drivers... are you one?

There is room for both cars & cycles on the road, if there is mutual respect. It was reported that in Brisbane , in the first week of these new laws, around 40 bike riders were charged by Police for traffic offences. If bike riders are made to obey the road rules, same as car drivers, I'm ok with that. Bob

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Originally Posted by bee utey

The outrage?


It's not an attack against you personally, just against the commonly held notion that cyclists need to be registered and reported for bad behaviour. What I'm saying is that your comment is exactly like the ones I read in posts all over the internet, and I'm tired of it. Look, If I spent my entire time on the road reporting the bad behaviour of ALL the cretinous users out there, I'd need a secretary, a permanent line to the police and a driver. It's not necessary. Leave the job to the police to deal with, they will eventually catch up with the miscreants if they get out of control.

What next, rego plates on pedestrians?:p

Cheers and have a drink.:)

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Cool mate no dramas well said :)

Rego for all cyclists makes no sense, BUT zoned rego would ;)
To ride in inner city high traffic areas or roads 60kph plus you need to understand road rules, use the cycle lanes , that in Sydney have replaced lanes used by cars, and not block traffic flow. This should require some form of rego.
As to registering pedestrians, why do you think so many roads have fences down the middle? Would it be to stop the iPod/Bluetooth sheep from wandering into 4 plus lanes of traffic?

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Originally Posted by disco man

When the idea was suggested that cyclist also have rego plates the reaction from the transport minister was to claim it was to costly and unneeded and the cycling lobby very happy with that call............

...............i personally think motorist should have some way of reporting cyclist that are breaking the law and as cyclist have the same rights on the road as motorists then why should they not have to pay some form of fee.

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With you there , bro.

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Originally Posted by disco man

And before people say i already pay rego on my car so why should i have to pay again,my way of thinking is anything that travels on the road and has all the rights as other road users should have to pay for the right just like any other vehicle.

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Using that logic, I should only have to pay one rego on one vehicle. After all, as people constantly remind me, I can only drive one vehicle at a time.

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Originally Posted by disco man

Pensioners pay to use mobility scooters which stay out of the way of traffic and are the only way those people can get around so why should the cyclists get away without paying.

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Didn't know that.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

Spare me your outrage, when maaad cyclists kill their first 100 motorists Australia wide they can have rego plates on their backs. Till then take a deep breath and swear that you're better than them.

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Don't know what it's like in SA, but here in Vic, they've been killing pedestrians.
In fact, accidents between cyclists and pedestrians have been increasing.

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I'm so passionate about giving cyclists a metre clearance between them and my doors that I've welded a metre long 50x50 mm SHS to the left side of my bullbar, as a guide.

Any idea where I can get those cool wheel hub accessories as featured in Ben Hur:wasntme:

Seriously live and let live and a dose of common sense.
When my son got his P plates we went for a run down the Newell, I emphasized that regardless of the rule book, B Doubles always win!

A question, when cyclists travel in a pentalon ? Is that actually legal, am thinking of the rules of keeping to the left, 2 abreast and not tailgating, sic.

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Originally Posted by AndyG

A question, when cyclists travel in a pentalon ? Is that actually legal, am thinking of the rules of keeping to the left, 2 abreast and not tailgating, sic.

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That would (or should) be on a controlled event. If it was not a controlled event then, yes, road laws must be observed.
Otherwise, when Mr Plod stops you in your car and asks "Do you have a valid reason for speeding?", "Yes. I am participating in a Gunball rally." would be a valid reason an Mr Plod would apologise and let you on your way.

Last christmas, I was driving along. I drove up behind a pack of cyclists out on a morning ride. They took up so much road space they were from the gutter to two of the cyclists were cycling on the wrong side of the road. Oncoming traffic had to get right over.
In such massive groups, mob mentality takes over and any action to alert them of the error of their ways would had been met with a tirade of hostile abuse.
How does one report this blatant disregard of road law, that is why we require cycle registration. Not for children. For MAMILs.

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Originally Posted by AndyG

A question, when cyclists travel in a pentalon ? Is that actually legal, am thinking of the rules of keeping to the left, 2 abreast and not tailgating, sic.

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A peloton is legal, it's just a group of bikes. The law is 2 abreast in a lane, which works out to the same as a car width. In reality, it shouldn't make a lot of difference to cars if they are 3 wide within the lane, but 2 is the law. There are no spacings specified to the bike in front as far as I'm aware. The good thing about pelotons, is they should make it easier for cars to pass the bikes in one batch rather than passing a long line of strung out bikes.

I was thinking of an article in the Australian last week where a driver did Some sudden braking, just to be a ****. The cyclists had a major pile up as they were head down bum up in a pack, and those behind the leaders had left no safe braking distance, I assume(!) safe following distance applies to all vehicles. Unless it is a authorized event with road closers,police etc.

Then there is/was the group who used Brighton rd in Melbourne. They would chant on on as they powered through red lights, eventually they killed someone.

Saying this I believe this a minority who just happen to be highly visible.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

In such massive groups, mob mentality takes over and any action to alert them of the error of their ways would had been met with a tirade of hostile abuse.
How does one report this blatant disregard of road law, that is why we require cycle registration. Not for children. For MAMILs.

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From everything I've ever seen within pelotons there are a lot of communication protocols up and down the pack in relation to hazards, oncoming and following cars. For small groups when there is a following car they pull into single file at the left, larger pelotons make sure they're in 2s and typically take the LHS and centre of the lane. Perhaps in the country we do things differently to those in the city. When a vehicle sits behind blowing on the horn or try's their best to sideswipe the riders, and people do, then of course they're going to be alerted to the error of their ways and will be met with a tirade of abuse. You report it the police in same way riders report FWICs. :D