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    Vlad has enough sarcasm to end the world

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    Yeah, ok...

    Quote Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh View Post
    I can drink the water
    Though with the latest price rises I can't afford it.

    can safely swim in the sea.
    except for the sharks, and irikanji, and ...

    Eat the fish from the rivers
    as long s they aren't carp - which most of the are now.

    and see the forest of trees.
    but only from a distance because many are now gated and closed, so we can preserve them so future generations also can't visit them.

    a world of uncertainty its people deranged.
    Some more than others.. Bob Brown springs to mind.

    We're so good at killing each other
    Well, it's good to be good at something.
    we churn out war machines
    We used to, but that's another industry that is now largely offshore, Just ask the metalstorm people.

    I wish I could help but I don’t know what to do
    Stop whining, for a start.

    with good intentions I'm the problem too
    Oh yeah collective guilt. Go start a religion why don't you.

    I can give, I can only wonder about the world in which you live
    It's great ! haven't you seen the Jetsons ?!

    I live in a land and a time that’s free.
    Look around, think again.

    They spend billions exploring the stars, while home on earth millions starve. Unknown reader, not yet conceived. Inherit the world my generation leaves. I fear for you there will not be the natural pleasures there are for me. I can drink the water, can safely swim in the sea. Eat the fish from the rivers and see the forest of trees.
    Stop repeating yourself.

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    I wouldn't worry i don't think anyone is that interested.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Climate change?

    The climate may well be changing or as the chief of the Water Corp in WA dared to say "it may just be a warming phase which won't last long". Of course he was well and truly abused for not believing the so called "accepted science" but what is it?
    Is it the crap out about by pollies to get more tax out of us (I believe so personally) or is it the crap and distorted graphs and modelling put to those same pollies as evidence by scientists who rely on government for their budgets which again comes from the poor old long suffering taxpayer?
    There's just as many very well qualified scientists around the World who are deeply sceptical of the hocus pocus garbage being spouted at very expensive conferences in exotic parts of the World attended by all those charlatan pollies and their hordes of hangers on all slurping out of the same trough.
    We should all pollute as little as possible, from those that chuck their fast food crap out the window to big industry and it's "anything goes" attitude in their pursuit of the big dollar.
    And anyway, why should taxpayers of Western countries be the ones to pay the bill yet India, China and other so called emerging nations get to continue doing what they please?
    And if it really is carbon doing the damage why are place like Brazil, Indonesia etc. allowed to destroy huge tracts of rain forest which according to real provable evidence, take the carbon in the atmosphere?
    I'm glad that idiot KRUDD has gone but think the beast that now inhabits the Lodge will be even worse, goaded on by her union mates.
    Alan.

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    God someone from WA and sane. what next !

    I like the cut of your jib !
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Take a look at how much $$$ Al Gore has made. His company is geared up to make even more out of the american version of our ETS if it gets through.

    Without a doubt there will be plenty of labour party mates doing the same here.

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    Climate change.

    The Indian head of the UNs IPCC just also happen to be the head honcho of a carbon credits trading comany.
    Draw your own conclusions from that as to why he's very enthusiastic about sounding the death knell of all mankind if we don't pay up and fast.
    Alan.

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    I'm not a sceptic but i do believe the earth goes thru cycles as it has been shown to but there is no doubt we humans have had some impact on our planets weather cycles.
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    ETS came into effect yesterday in New Zealand. A litre of petrol is 2.5c per litre dearer (approx NZD1.80) and diesel is up to 3cents a litre more exxy (approx. NZD1.20). Bit of a cop-out really. Agriculture contributes approx 50% of our emmissions but is not directly ETS'ed... a strong lobby group...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferret View Post
    Then why do you present it as evidence of something?
    I id not know that I had presented it as evidence. It must have been in a link I gave without reading the link throughuhly. SoI am in trouble for not examinging my links more carefully before I gave them--Sorry.

    I may agree with that Chart, but would have to study it first to see if I agree or disagree. Certainly I do not dispute the Bible's recorded ages for the Antidiluvians. Other ancient cultures recorded great ages--And not the same ages as the Bible records.

    But I did not realise that chart would come up. I thought I was going to discuss whether or not the Weather is changing--must read things morecarefully in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
    My tuppence worth FWIW:

    Whether or not you believe that extra CO2 from burning fossil fuels leads to the enhanced greenhouse effect (Causing global warming and leading to climate change) there is the undeniable fact that fossil fuels are a limited resource. Just look at the problems that our love for oil has caused in the Gulf of Mexico and Iraq... An alternative source of energy has to be found sooner or later.

    If the climate change skeptics are right we can put off the change for 50 or so years without much harm to the environment but there will still have to be a change.

    If the climate change skeptics are wrong and the majority of the scientific community are right (and personally I think this is more likely ), then we should make this change, that has to be made anyway, ASAP to prevent further damage to the environment. If we don't the planet could be stuffed!
    Yes supply is limited. We only have about 1000 years of fossil fuels if we wanted to turn all of Australiaia's coal into Deisel--we have technology to do that. And we can easily turn wood into coal within a year if we want to do this.

    We basically have coal seams up to 800 feet thick, from central Queensland to south of Kiama NSW, and it goes 200 miles out to sea, under the ocean floor. Trouble is most of it would be very expensive to mine.

    All through inland Australia are wells drilled which struck fossil fuel--oil, etc. But these are uneconomical to extract it at current oil prices.

    So do not let them say there is a shortage of Fossil fuel--there is not a shortage.

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