I wrecken it should be a ban based on power to weight not a blanket ban on v8's and turbos.
Any new naturally aspirated rice burner would easly blow off an old v8.
What are your views?
The South Australian Government will introduce the ban for P plates holders from September to drive high performace cars including V8 and turbo models
I think that it is Ok.
Works with the bikes which have a limit of 250cc.
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I wrecken it should be a ban based on power to weight not a blanket ban on v8's and turbos.
Any new naturally aspirated rice burner would easly blow off an old v8.
I think it should be all V8's (except 4wd), all turbo (except diesel) and all jap import rice burners- give them all the equivalent of a HR holden to drive for 2-3 years.All these new cars are too easy for young drivers to not really drive but just point the car where they want to go.
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						yep, bring it in, because its saving oh so many kiddies from getting themselves killed in socially unacceptable hoon cars, its simply shifting the problem into crappier cars
a friend of mine has recently been faced with the problem that every one but the youngest of his daughters got thier licenses before this stupidity was introduced in Queensland, and can legally drive V8's, so when theyve needed to, he's simply loaned them one of his cars
now his youngest has got her P's, he's looking at having to get something with a 6 in it just in case she needs a backup car..... all 5 of his registered cars are V8's
funny thing is, his older daughters both grew up driving some reasonably powerful V8's, and theyre probably the only young, female drivers i know of who dont scare the hell out of me
I sort of agree in principle, but can put a lot of strain on families. If my daughter were to get her license under this system, until clarified she could not drive any of our cars, TD5 Fender, V8 Statesman, V8 D2. Yet none of these I would consider high performance cars. This is just stupid as it would mean we have to buy another car or even if we did if hers was in for servicing or off the road she could not borrow one of ours. But we could go and get a SV6 Commodore or BMW or Audi or similar.
The bike issue is just a joke. My brother got his bike licence when still the 250 regs were in place. So he bout a Honda 250 import that could do 245kmph (as fast as my Ducati and GSX1100 Katana I had).
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.......but standard vanilla flavoured camrys, dunnydores and falcons are all around 200kw and only 6cyl. Every year ORDINARY cars get more powerful.
A few years ago these sorts of figures were HSV / FPV etc.
Mates 4.2 turbo diesel GU has 180rwkw and it flies, so even turbo diesels are quick. (except my disco which is a tractor......)
Maybe a power to weight ratio, but I don't think banning stuff works.
Decent compulsory driver education. Driver etiquette. Not getting parents to teach children (we all think we are worlds best drivers/teachers tho haha). Visit to the TAC wards. Million better ideas over banning stuff which only affects a tiny percentage of accidents.
Its a complete ****, makes no difference, a responsible driver will be responsible in anything, no matter how much HP, and irresponsible driver will not.......yes, I'm one of the irresponsible ones
A BA falcon has ample enough power, much more the an EB 5L, its a joke
Bikes are no longer just 250CC they are Lams approved, which is a far smarter bull**** rule, you can ride an XR400 on your L's and P's, but not a RGV250
It wasn't a problem for me. I told my kids they couldn't drive my cars as I wasn't going to pay higher insurance costs for them to do so. If they wanted to drive they had to buy their own cars.
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I think, as mentioned above, power to weight rules like with motorcycles.
However, seeing that most of us (baby boomers and Gen X) grew up driving cars with drum brakes, no seat belts in some models, no air bags and ABS etc etc... why so much carnage with modern 'safe' cars?
Obvisouly it still comes down to young driver attitudes! So the rules above will help, but most little cars can still do speeds to kill all on board anyway.
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