Thread: The Australian Flag

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

The (State) of the Northern Territory has it's own, distinctive, unique flag that is not a defaced Blue Ensign!



Even the Queen, when she travels in Australia doesn't fly the Union Flag or even her Royal Standard from the UK, but has her own personal flag as Elizabeth I Queen of Australia.

The Queens Standard is indeed a magnificent display, I didn't realise it existed, to tell you the truth. However, I'm sure you know the NT is a territory, not a state yet, as indicated by only 6 States represented on the Queens Standard. The point I was trying to make is even though Aus. is part of the Commonwealth, with the Queen as our Queen, it doesn't mean we have to have the Union Jack in the upper hoist. Bob

Originally Posted by stock

The Australian Flag

This was requested...............

Actually, take away the black & red background, & leave the National Crest, that design looks better than I thought it would. The National Crest works well because it represents all Australians, where-ever they come from. Bob

Originally Posted by bob10

Actually, take away the black & red background, & leave the National Crest, that design looks better than I thought it would. The National Crest works well because it represents all Australians, where-ever they come from. Bob

Don't know if it is a practical design,might be difficult to have both sides correct.........

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

No the flag of the Kingdom of Ireland was the Cross of St Patrick which was subjugated by the English Crown in the sixteenth century. However St Andrew's cross was not included in the first Union Flag (also called the Queen Anne Flag) of 1606, the (second) Union Flag as we know today and which includes the cross of St Patrick did not come into being until 1801.

The Irish Tricolour was also raised over the Post Office in Dublin as a symbol of resistance during the Easter rebellion of 1916 and was adopted in 1919 as the battle flag of Irish republicans flag during the Irish Rebellion eventually becomming the flag of the Irish Free State in 1922. The flag itself can trace it's origins back as far as 1848 when it was donated by a group of French women sympathetic to the cause of Irish nationalism, prior to that Irish independence was represented by a green flag with a harp device.

So while today the cross of St Patrick represents Northern Ireland, prior to 1922 it represented the Kingdom of Ireland and therefore the whole of Ireland.

Maybe I should have clarified it was the flag of the Irish Republic

Baz.

Originally Posted by Redback

Maybe I should have clarified it was the flag of the Irish Republic

Baz.

Not a problem Baz, while not distracting from Irish Nationalism, my point is that the Union flag is a symbol of the English flag of St George sitting above the flags of other places as it invaded, occupied and controlled that place.

Diana

Originally Posted by bob10

...<snip> The point I was trying to make is even though Aus. is part of the Commonwealth, with the Queen as our Queen, it doesn't mean we have to have the Union Jack in the upper hoist. Bob

Absolutely Bob!

Exactly as Canada has done.

Diana

One consideration is that flags are sometimes reproduced as a very small image.

The simpler version loses little as it is reduced while the coat of arms in the top version just becomes an unrecognisable blob.



Something like the Canadian or French flags would still be recognisable even when quite tiny.

Originally Posted by stock

Don't know if it is a practical design,might be difficult to have both sides correct.........

what if we did the green background and gold stars'mate I love your work!