Carbon Tax. Well someone had to bring it up!

**Ralph1Malph** · 11th July 2011, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by pfillery

The way it stands, it's like a tradesman, say an electrician, charging you an extra $210 for the callout because he got fined for speeding on the way to your house. Same goes for the tax - stop them passing it on, make them justify any supposedly unrelated price increase, fix their prices for a couple of years and even name them publicly, so customers support the ones being more responsible. they rate our schools to enable choices so why not big companies as well.

Sorry Mate, this is exactly what happens! Taxis pass on the toll charges, if tradies have to pay for parking, it gets added on. Whilst not being added to your job specifically, all trades expenses are factored in over the long term. If a tradie hires something for your job and breaks it, you can be sure that you or the next guy is paying for it. That's how it works.
Unlike electricity, you can choose to minimise the amount you pay the tradie. But as all of us use electricity, and I am sure we have nearly cut ours to the bone (ok, not quite), we are a captive audience. Just like the fuel surcharge, the filthy 500 will simply add it on...a carbon tax surcharge if you like.

Cheers
Ralph

**Ralph1Malph** · 11th July 2011, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Hymie

Is Carbon Dioxide evenly distributed throughout the atmosphere? - Yahoo! Answers

Short answer,

CO2 is 1.5 times heavier than air and sinks to the ground, so it can't escape through the hole in the ozone layer.

Soo.........you're saying that all of Australia's CO2 will end up sinking to the lowest points....much like water flows into holes?

I guess that means that the CO2 concentration is higher in Melb than the rest of the country (save Port Augusta)?

Maybe we could encourage all the CO2 to roll towards Melb and then just fill it in, thus burying all the nasty CO2.

Ralph

**Hymie** · 11th July 2011, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

Soo.........you're saying that all of Australia's CO2 will end up sinking to the lowest points....much like water flows into holes?

I guess that means that the CO2 concentration is higher in Melb than the rest of the country (save Port Augusta)?

Maybe we could encourage all the CO2 to roll towards Melb and then just fill it in, thus burying all the nasty CO2.

Ralph

No, it sinks to the lowest point. The CO2 level at Lake Eyre should in theory be higher than on top of Mt Kosciusko.

**Chucaro** · 11th July 2011, 07:26 PM

And Australia is number [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_ capita"]List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:CO2_per_capita_per_country.png" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/CO2_per_capita_per_country.png/220px-CO2_per_capita_per_country.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/4/4b/CO2_per_capita_per_country.png/220px-CO2_per_capita_per_country.png[/ame] per capita just behind USA and Canada is number 13.
Argentina is number 85 and Brasil 124. We have to do a lot of work to be more reponsable

By the way China is number 80 so just imagine if the people in China start producing the same emissions than as

**THE BOOGER** · 11th July 2011, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

Soo.........you're saying that all of Australia's CO2 will end up sinking to the lowest points....much like water flows into holes?

I guess that means that the CO2 concentration is higher in Melb than the rest of the country (save Port Augusta)?

Maybe we could encourage all the CO2 to roll towards Melb and then just fill it in, thus burying all the nasty CO2.

Ralph

And here I was thinking that canberra was the lowest place in oz

**Hymie** · 11th July 2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

And here I was thinking that canberra was the lowest place in oz

That's why oil in Australia is so expensive, the oil is in Bass Straight and the Dipsticks in Canberra.

**bee utey** · 11th July 2011, 08:14 PM

Sooner or later someone will remember the lowest point in Australia is Lake Eyre, and then the boffins will want to bury anything heavier than eyre under its salty surface.

**slug_burner** · 11th July 2011, 08:16 PM

Oh, it will never work, we'll all be killed. Doom, doom, doom. Just like the GST and every other change ever made.

Grow up you lot.

**bee utey** · 11th July 2011, 08:20 PM

It used to be just ebil rich blokes that caused mining towns to close (apart from running out of stuff to dig for), now it's an EBIL JULIA instead! Horrors! Someone to blame we can actually vote out!!!

**Lotz-A-Landies** · 11th July 2011, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by slug_burner

Oh, it will never work, we'll all be killed. Doom, doom, doom. Just like the GST and every other change ever made.

Grow up you lot.

I take your point, in my growing up, can you educate me which manufacturing industry will be increasing it's workforce by hundreds if not thousands of employees because of this carbon tax?

We cant suggest solar because the Chinese now make solar panels using UNSW developed technology, wind is out because we no longer have the expertise in manufacture of electric motors sufficient to compete with people like Siemens, nor the skills to manufacture the airfoils. Household appliances are out because even Fisher & Paykel now manufacture in Thailand and not Oz.

Diana

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