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    Payday...$300 for 7hrs work

    So I want to vent.

    I hire relief teachers as part of my responsibilities and the going rate for a days work is a little over $300 at our school.

    On my books I have about 8 relief teachers that I call when someone is sick.

    So tonight I had 2 teachers call in sick. I then called 6 relief teachers to offer them a day of work.

    This "day of work" is defined as:
    -arrive at 8:30am
    - supervise 7 lessons, no marking, reports, politics or lesson planning, basically sit on your arse and tell the kids to work and behave,
    -have 40 minutes break
    - sign one piece of paper
    - leave at 3:30
    - get paid $300

    And so I make 6 calls and, get this, 5 of them didn't even answer their phone!

    That's 5 out of 6 didn't even answer!

    I wonder how many people out there in AULRO world wouldn't answer their phone for $300 for 7 hours work?

    This is a frustrating part of my job!

    Now dont go all on about the supposed teachers life of 45 weeks holidays blah blah blah until you've done the job. I'm a teacher, and I work hard, am a work at 6:30am and don't leave until about 5:30pm each day, and yes I work most holidays too. There are plenty of lazy teachers but there's plenty more hard working ones too!

    So comment away, but don't turn this into a "bag a teacher" thread!

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    I'd work for that, I do regularly but that's at night, my day job pays substantially more

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    If you pay cash, I can call in sick to my day job, and help you out.






    But yes, I know the problem. We have had periods of substantial overtime going, and people normally jump at it, however, there are times when there is just too much, and no-one will do it.

    Many moons ago, when I was in charge of rosters, I had a period where I worked 23 days straight, 16 hours a day... I was lucky, in so much as, it was all basically "office" type work, and not physical labour, but there is no way I could do it these days.

    However, I would have thought that a relief teacher would be looking for all the work they can get.

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    U can't be serious!

    They have lives too... ;-)
    On my days off I have days where I don't answer calls (complete rest days).

    I, like Rovercare would work that for pocket money, but not as my regular job...

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    Ok yeah all true, however the "they have lives too" comment doesn't hold water to well. A relief teacher can't have a life unless they work...And each of these teachers want as much work as they can get, apparently, so I think it's just lazy really.

    And for those who earn "substantially more" well good on you if you can get it. $300 is the going rate for relief teachers, a little higher than normal teachers actually.

    The average teachers wage is around $70k, and a principal of a school who works more than 12 hours everyday of the year, earns an average of $100-$150 except for really wealthy or remote schools.

    So even though it's un-Australian to ask, what are you guys on, if you earn substantially more? Or maybe to be more generic, what are others you know earning and where?

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    Hmmmm,
    7.3 hours 'work' for $300 works is what, 41 an hour plus change.
    No annual leave, no sick leave, minimum super.

    Not exactly the gravy train for a university trained professional (what ever that means). If that is the casual rate for teachers, well then teachers are under paid... (even if they only work half the year sorry couldnt help myself )

    Education, like many actually important things in this messed up economy goes to the lowest bidder. Whilst rocks in the ground, $ in the sky and electrons in the ether go to the highest bidder.

    Q: Just imagine the Australia we would have if a teacher was on $1200 a day whilst someone who can drive a big twuck digging rocks got $300 a day?????

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    A: We would have super rich mining companies paying super high taxes to pay for the teachers making 4 times the twuck drivers... despite what people want to believe the economy is JUST a magical merry-go-round. When you make up an imaginery self perpetuating system, no matter how complex it seems - the pesos just have to go round and round and round and round.
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    Christ, If you think that $300 per day for a person with a four year degree is too much, I wonder what you would think is a days pay for a blue collar worker. Five x 300 is 1500 times 52, $78,000 p.a. which they won't, as a part time or casual employee get.

    The relief or part time teacher is not going to get a full salary at teaching so probably has other jobs to help buy the groceries. This is why their 'phones are unanswered. They are pouring beer or waiting tables.

    Boilermakers and fitter-machinists in capital city jobs are getting close to $100,000 p.a. these days.
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    That is $300 per school day. You wouldn't be getting called in for work on school holidays.

    So if there are roughly 40 weeks of the year that you can get called in that works out to $60k per year if you work every one of those possible days.

    It is a great system for someone who does not want to work every day or someone who can't work every day but their life is not scheduled enough to know what those days might be.

    My wife is a teacher but is also a stay at home mum. Ever since telling the local schools that she is thinking about doing the very occasional relief day she has had a few calls and turned them all down as they haven't suited.

    I would hate to have to rely on it as your only income. You wouldn't exactly be looked upon favourably with your bank manager.

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    It's no picnic being a CRT Teacher. My Wife has been doing it while on leave bringing up our kids and is back full time next year.

    You can't plan anything in case you get the call. You don't know until 07:10 in the morning if they want you, then rush getting the kids and yourself ready. You can't run the class how you want to and can't plan things. Teaches don't leave there days plans. You are treated like rubbish. Kids try to test how far they can push you. You don't get any breaks as you have to do yard duty. In Victoria it's a lot less than $300. You don't get called every day, some times you don't work all week. No Super, Sick Leave or Annual leave.

    She can't wait to be back full time to escape to rubbish.

    If you had the level of education they have would you do it?????????

    Cheers David.
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    Just out of interest, how would you know if they had been called into another school? You may have been the last cab off the rank with other schools booking the casuals yesterday for today.

    It is what happens with our pool nurses, as soon as you know you need someone you book who ever you can. There are just not enough to go around (and beds go vacant and waiting lists get longer).

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