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    a time to stop and think for keyboard warriors

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    this is why we are as vigilant here as we have been.

    and will be more so in the future.
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    ... and wait until they then start on the social networking sites
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    Best damned news I've read this year, I made a comment on JJJ's web site that they had put up about boat people. I got some very nasty and violent replys (basically all I said was do any of you who are so anti them know anything about the conditions they came from) 1 reply included a death threat, I lodged a complaint with JJJ nothing happened.
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    I agree that it's good news. Sometimes people think that the net is all anonymous, and that they can say what the hell they like and get away with it.

    You have an opinion, you should be prepared to stand up behind it in a court of law, not hide behind some user name on the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitz View Post
    I lodged a complaint with JJJ nothing happened.
    re lodge it today and see what sort of reaction you get...
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    “What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
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    This type of thing is always a double edged sword ... there are pro's and cons to such action. I always tend to lean toward more freedom of speech - and while I understand the issue of defamation, there is a censorship quality to all this that doesn't sit so well either. It is akin to kids in the play ground calling each other names ... should we have defamation cases in school too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikirocker View Post
    This type of thing is always a double edged sword ... there are pro's and cons to such action. I always tend to lean toward more freedom of speech - and while I understand the issue of defamation, there is a censorship quality to all this that doesn't sit so well either. It is akin to kids in the play ground calling each other names ... should we have defamation cases in school too?

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    A lot depends on the language used, and intent. Too often the internet is used by cowards to spread their bile, about time they were made accountable. Democracy and free speech were hard won freedoms, too precious to be abused by small minded imbeciles. Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Democracy and free speech were hard won freedoms, too precious to be abused by small minded imbeciles. Bob

    Last I checked, Democracy and freedom of speech are rights that extend to all, small minded imbeciles included. Democracy is in danger when those rights start to be selectively endorsed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikirocker View Post
    Last I checked, Democracy and freedom of speech are rights that extend to all, small minded imbeciles included. Democracy is in danger when those rights start to be selectively endorsed.
    I'm not sure I know what a democracy is?

    We don't have an inalienable right to free speech in Australia, laws of sedition, defamation and slander put limits on free speech.

    We also managed to elect a political party based on their leader's promise for no carbon tax and now the tax is on the way, hence we don't live in a democracy but merely a system of elected dictators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikirocker View Post
    Last I checked, Democracy and freedom of speech are rights that extend to all, small minded imbeciles included. Democracy is in danger when those rights start to be selectively endorsed.
    Australia has no rights of free speech (or much else, for that matter). In fact, proposals to establish a "bill of rights" similar to the American system have been invariably rejected, mainly because Australians cannot agree on what rights we should have.

    This case is very similar - we all want our "rights"; as long as someone else's "rights" don't affect these "rights". In this case, we want the right to denounce the "scumbags" of the world, but the right not to be denounced if we behave the same way!

    As far as democracy is concerned, Australia's democratic processes, which are certainly not perfect, are an improvement on those of probably 95% of the rest of the world, and unlike "rights", are pretty firmly established by constitution and statute law. If you don't like the current federal government, blame the people who voted for it, not the process. They should know by now that politician's promises are hardly inviolable!

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