A decision to be made

Tombie · 29th November 2011, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by cal415

Dobbo, i looked at the amarok option, they look good, same as the ranger and would love the 5cyl version, but in the end i just couldnt see either taking the beating a defender will take or keeping up with a defender off road... i was thinking mainly from the family tourer and could have seen me taking either of the 2 to cape york when the time comes, then there was the IFS factor which is something that really turned me off in the prado...

Theres something about having solid axles and coil springs all round, real 4wd selection(no push button crap) and decent gearing that kept me on track with buying my 130.... Go the 130 to do away with the ABS/TC crap and build it into the truck you want like i am doing.

Having crawled under, over, through all those mentioned above...

I'd say the Amarok will take the same beating as a Defender, and then some...

Bloody tough chassis, excellent welding, tucked up neatly... Plenty of offroad protection underneath..

I'd have no hesitation of doing the Cape in it in stock format...

I love Defenders - But this DakDak has it nailed as an all rounder...

I'd say Mr Redback and Partner will be very happy with their decision(s)...

**dobbo** · 29th November 2011, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Tombie

Having crawled under, over, through all those mentioned above...

I'd say the Amarok will take the same beating as a Defender, and then some...

Bloody tough chassis, excellent welding, tucked up neatly... Plenty of offroad protection underneath..

I'd have no hesitation of doing the Cape in it in stock format...

I love Defenders - But this DakDak has it nailed as an all rounder...

I'd say Mr Redback and Partner will be very happy with their decision(s)...

Tombie, any towing experience with one as yet?

Tombie · 29th November 2011, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by dobbo

Tombie, any towing experience with one as yet?

Not personally... But there are several people I know with one...

Will get their feedback...

Redback has one arriving today... He may tow something very soon

and write a report....

We made a choice to go D4 as its proven towing our Cat... As opposed to the Amarok, which we couldnt get the opportunity to hook up and tow before buying...

**isuzurover** · 29th November 2011, 10:20 AM

Amarok Towing

Not very informative, but worth it for the amusing Saffa accent:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQeJjRCwpg]VW Amarok Challenge 7: Towing Ability - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI40ELTEnTM"]VW Amarok Ute Test - Allan Whiting - YouTube[/ame]

**Bigbjorn** · 29th November 2011, 11:06 AM

Buy a tidy County 110 and restore it using a 4BD1T and all the good gear you always wished to have. This will be considerably cheaper than a new vehicle of any make, and more capable.

**dobbo** · 29th November 2011, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Buy a tidy County 110 and restore it using a 4BD1T and all the good gear you always wished to have. This will be considerably cheaper than a new vehicle of any make, and more capable.

Totally agree, and for me, mine is tidy enough, but until the day when one of you blokes can say x amount and I'll do it for you, the county will still be ultilised as a farm implement. If I had the time to do a full rebuild, I'd do it yesterday.

Where's this blknight when you need him.

Anyway it's a replacement for the D2 not one of my many toys.

**rovercare** · 29th November 2011, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by dobbo

Totally agree, and for me, mine is tidy enough, but until the day when one of you blokes can say x amount and I'll do it for you, the county will still be ultilised as a farm implement. If I had the time to do a full rebuild, I'd do it yesterday.

Where's this blknight when you need him.

Anyway it's a replacement for the D2 not one of my many toys.

$40k

Its not an answerable question, without a detailed list of expected results, also if you wanted a "quote" then anyone who does this sort of work, will always add 30+% for a quoted job, its to cover your ass, make some money and if you come in way under, you can refund and make the custome feel pleased

Anyhow........you wont do it

**dobbo** · 29th November 2011, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by rovercare

$40k

Its not an answerable question, without a detailed list of expected results, also if you wanted a "quote" then anyone who does this sort of work, will always add 30+% for a quoted job, its to cover your ass, make some money and if you come in way under, you can refund and make the custome feel pleased

Anyhow........you wont do it

chuck us your number and well talk about this list of results

**rovercare** · 29th November 2011, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by dobbo

chuck us your number and well talk about this list of results

Haven't we been through this avenue before? 0409410655

**Beckford** · 29th November 2011, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by dobbo

Why would I even consider a 110 apart from **** value of saying I paid $54k for a car that will break down and is crap. (I don't need the ego boost, im not a maccas worker)

It sounds like you have already made up your mind..... You buy a Defender because it is very capable off road straight out the box and has a 1,000kg payload for touring.

You don't buy a defender if you want it to handle like a sedan on the freeway or because of the price tag. (It is hand made in England for off road green lane'n and farm work.)

I've done 20,326km mainly on trips in my 110 (2010 Puma) and it has not broken down, nor is it "crap". The only issue I have had is the air conditioning which has been fixed twice under warranty.

If it does not feel right, do not buy a Defender.....

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