Thread: Land Rover vs ARB who will fix this issue?

Whilst I can't comment on the specifics, I know Jimmy and his crew quite well an aren't surprised they tried to help, I'd recommend them to anyone.

I also know ARB Artarmon are Toyota specialists, they told me they didn't want to touch my Defender TD5 because they only do Toyotas!

With regard to your problem, I'd be looking at every single additional wire they put in and see if there is any obvious short.

Also, add up the total additional power requirements In the spots, work light, additional bulbs etc and work out how may extra amps you need, assuming all power is taken from one point that's as much as you will need to increase the fuse by.

Hth
Jon

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Just another thought or two.

Do you mean 2 new spots on the front, or existing LR ones?

If its 2 new ones then there is no way they should be powering them through the car wiring loom, no wonder you've got problems! All spots should be powered desperately I triggered via a relay somewhere.

Finally, given the ARB bar on a Disco is not uncommon it would be a safe bet that St Leonard's have fitted on before, is there anything that St Leonard's would normally do different to what ARB did?

Out of interest why did you get the ARB guys to do the work and not St Leonard's?

Jon

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Originally Posted by Glyndwr

Should we be progressively increasing the size of the fuse until it stops blowing? I think not. My belief is that ARB St Leonards needs to fix their wiring.

NO

the fuse is there to protect the wiring from burning out in the event of a short or the appliance at the end of the wire drawing too much current.

If you keep upping the fuse size you can wind up with a wire glowing red hot which then lets the smoke out of the insulation and in that situation usually where there's smoke there's fire.

if the 15 amp fuse is blowing because the lights are drawing too much then whoever installed them needs a kick in the joy department and given the instruction to install a relay and a dedicated power feed with the correct ratings for wiring and fusing (ARB )

If the 15 Amp fuse is blowing because theres a short then the short needs to be found and fixed. if its in the setup that goes into the work that ARB did then its ARB's problem if it turns out to be a short somewhere else (check the wiring to the trailer plug often when its installed the grommet in the bodywork is not done properly and it cuts through on the sheetmetal) then its landrovers problem.

Don't know if this helps, but if the spots are after market extras they should come with their own loom and fuse.

Originally Posted by Glyndwr

The reason I am writing this is that I have been the go between Land Rover St Leonards and ARB Artarmon with each telling me a different story. So this is an opportunity for both Land Rover St Leonards and ARB Artarmon to set the record straight with their versions and hopefully come to a resolution as to who and how the problem can be fixed.

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I look forward to feedback from Land Rover St Leonards and ARB Artarmon.
Regards,

Glyn

Sorry to hear of your woes but do you seriously think either company will respond here?

Originally Posted by Glyndwr

and took the car back to Land Rover St Leonards ... the mechanic to come out and talk to my wife. The mechanic got the book out of the car and showed her that the normal fuse was a 15 amp fuse. He stated that with all the additional lights (two spot lights at the front and a work light at the rear) that the ampage of the fuse has to be increased. So he opened the fuse box and showed my wife that it was still a 15 amp fuse and replaced it with a 20 amp fuse.

This person obviously doesn't have the necessary knowledge to be providing auto-electrical advice of any sort, let alone D4 specific. I suggest you ask ARB to get advice from an auto electrician, preferably someone with D3/D4 electrical knowledge.

Originally Posted by Scouse

Sorry to hear of your woes but do you seriously think either company will respond here?

One or the other should at least fix the problem, don't you think, it is obviously one or the others fault.

I think they should stop blaming one another and fix the fault.

OR

Take the car to an auto elec, get him to see what the problem is and bill whoever stuffed up

Baz.

Glyn, unfortunately I had a similar issue with ARB Artarmon and eventually after they had tried to fix it a number of times I took it to an auto electrician and had them rewire it all.

In the auto electricians words "The kid that did this wiring should go back and finish the last two years of his trade"

Needles to say I will not be returning to ARB after this and nearly everything else the fitted was faulty.

Regards
Iain