Thread: Random Question. What are your thoughts on Cannabis?

What they said..... I lived on campus at university for a few years so have witnessed first hand the all the positives and negatives discussed.....

Something you should touch on in your assignment is what happens when alcohol, pot and other drugs are mixed together. Consuming large quantities of alcohol and then smoking pot is a really bad idea. The term "greening out" comes to mind.

Moderation is the key with alcohol. The department of health recommends;

"For healthy men and women, drinking no more than two standard drinks on any day reduces your risk of harm from alcohol-related disease or injury over a lifetime. Drinking no more than four standard drinks on a single occasion reduces the risk of alcohol-related injury arising from that occasion."
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/alcohol/publishing.nsf/Content/guide-adult

Not sure about Pot. Maybe Google for informtion from countries where it is not illegal.

Any drug, alcohol included, will have an effect on driving and motoric skills.

Interesting website, the Australian Institute of Criminology...
One thing I noted, was as you say, there seems to be an awful lot of stats related to Alcohol, and a few related to drugs (maybe this in itself says where the true Australian problem lies?). reading through these, they tend to throw all drugs into one pile, and not break them down. Probably just to hard to break down, as the stats seem to be predominately from a police officer base, and I question the level of medical input. (undoubtedly there) Very interesting none the less.
With the police drug scanners, they will pick up a lot of different drugs, and as Cannibis is illegal, the crims distributing it are often distributing a lot of other drugs, so voila, swipe the weed smoker and you may very well detect other substances. This may alter "stats".
Whilst I appreciate emergency nursing and paramedicine, been there done that, also held people down in a psychosis etc, one thing I noted is that if someone was in casualty because they did something illegal, they will lie. They know they have done drugs, they know you know, so what's the least "offensive" drug they can say to avoid their "mothers" disapproval? (very Freudian) weed of course. When I moved to the ICU, you get a lot of long term blood results and can often talk to the patient in a relatively lucid manner, over a longer time span, and you more than often find out that other substances were involved. A lot of these results and longer converstaions, (sometimes going on for several days) are unfortunately not always available in emergency medicine... and crims lie.
I personally don't recall a stoner becoming overly aggressive, but mix it up and who knows what you get...

I feel if it is legalised, you will create a gap between the crims pushing Meth (etc) on a weed smoker, (pushers are good at their jobs, easy enough to get someone stoned, then push some crack onto them as their inhibitions are down, create a true addiction and earn the longer term dollar) The weed smoker will no longer be exposed to that level of criminality, and will have to look for it if that's what they want (but that's a whole new topic) You will also significantly reduce an income stream to criminal orginisations.

Just my experience talking, others have their own experiences, and I buy no means wanting to devalue them, and definately will never put down nurses and paramedics, true heroes.



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I could just put a at the end, absolving me of any bad intentions!

Originally Posted by Marshall

Any drug, alcohol included, will have an effect on driving and motoric skills.

Interesting website, the Australian Institute of Criminology...
One thing I noted, was as you say, there seems to be an awful lot of stats related to Alcohol, and a few related to drugs (maybe this in itself says where the true Australian problem lies?). reading through these, they tend to throw all drugs into one pile, and not break them down. Probably just to hard to break down, as the stats seem to be predominately from a police officer base, and I question the level of medical input. (undoubtedly there) Very interesting none the less.
With the police drug scanners, they will pick up a lot of different drugs, and as Cannibis is illegal, the crims distributing it are often distributing a lot of other drugs, so voila, swipe the weed smoker and you may very well detect other substances. This may alter "stats".
Whilst I appreciate emergency nursing and paramedicine, been there done that, also held people down in a psychosis etc, one thing I noted is that if someone was in casualty because they did something illegal, they will lie. They know they have done drugs, they know you know, so what's the least "offensive" drug they can say to avoid their "mothers" disapproval? (very Freudian) weed of course. When I moved to the ICU, you get a lot of long term blood results and can often talk to the patient in a relatively lucid manner, over a longer time span, and you more than often find out that other substances were involved. A lot of these results and longer converstaions, (sometimes going on for several days) are unfortunately not always available in emergency medicine... and crims lie.
I personally don't recall a stoner becoming overly aggressive, but mix it up and who knows what you get...

I feel if it is legalised, you will create a gap between the crims pushing Meth (etc) on a weed smoker, (pushers are good at their jobs, easy enough to get someone stoned, then push some crack onto them as their inhibitions are down, create a true addiction and earn the longer term dollar) The weed smoker will no longer be exposed to that level of criminality, and will have to look for it if that's what they want (but that's a whole new topic) You will also significantly reduce an income stream to criminal orginisations.

Just my experience talking, others have their own experiences, and I buy no means wanting to devalue them, and definately will never put down nurses and paramedics, true heroes.



or,



I could just put a at the end, absolving me of any bad intentions!

Perhaps someone should do a study on Australians' attitude to being patronised.

Originally Posted by POD

Perhaps someone should do a study on Australians' attitude to being patronised.

Do you feel patronised? How is me saying I think that paramedics and nurses do a fantastic job, and are true heroes, being condescending in the slightest? It's my honest opinion, and if you feel patronised by it, maybe after 15 years it's time for a change?
Following on from a couple of posts, where nurses, police and paramedics have to deal with a society that does things to excess, maybe I should have just said thanks.
Honestly, no offence meant, I truly feel this way.

Marshall

On behalf of emergency nurses, paramedics, emergency doctors and police I thank you! I think?

IMHO it's not about the criminality of drugs V's alcohol (if you search a recent thread, you will find my opinion on legalisation/decriminalisation), my opinion is about how I (sic) personally feel about cannabis.

So personally I don't like it, there are much more preferrable drugs (a nice red being one), and I find that cannabis smokers/consumers are more problematic people (than many other drug using populations).

As I said earlied, Australian research on the subject particularly medical research by organisations like the "National Drug & Alcohol Research Centre" (NDARC) at the Uni of NSW is far preferable over research done in the US because they start off with the premise that "drug (and frequently alcohol) use by definition is abuse" where Australian (and some other countries) accept that drug use may be a normal activity in some cultures and groups, and they conduct their research in a purely scientific manner without foregone conclusions.

talking about drugs,
I contributed to the discussion this morning with my usual does of AULRO from 5 to 6. I'm home now from work, it's hot, so I though I'd crack a Corona and sit down for another shot of AULRO and catch up on the days discussion. My addiction will run late into the night, trawling through post after post with almost total disregard to other things that should be attended to. But my beer consumption will stop most likely after this one, and pot has no show.

What's wrong with me???

I must have had nice drug dealers, they never pushed anything on me

Ive never hit anyone or anything in my life, but apparently according to some I'm a violent lunatic because I liked the green.