Thread: yank rubbish

If the jeep lifted a wheel - more than likely a D3/D4 would have also in the same location.

As modern landies have shown wheel travel is arguably not as important as it once was as long as good traction aids are fitted.

That's the least of their problems. My neighbour bought a new Jeep late last year - he has trouble driving it between servo's because it is so thirsty... It has a 6 cylinder petrol engine (not sure of its capacity) and he is struggling to get 15L per 100KM out of it. He drives about 700KM per week in it, so It's costing him a pretty penny to run... He asked what we were getting out of SWMBO Rangie, and was shocked we were getting 11.5 out of it - not much worse that his old commodore got...

Originally Posted by blackbuttdisco

The 4WD magazines reckon this is as good as a Landrover?

Which magazine?

What model Jeep compared to what model Landrover?

It wouldn't have been a Wrangler Rubicon, they'll outflex a Defender, probably a little Patriot or Compass, which I've just read were originally based on a shared platform with Mitsubishi (think Outlander)

Originally Posted by garrycol

As modern landies have shown wheel travel is arguably not as important as it once was as long as good traction aids are fitted.

Heresy!

Traction Control is all well and good when it works but when the ABS goes to sleep due to dirt road braking your TC is gone too.
The reason my old 'classic' still cuts it in the bush, skinny tyres and all, is because of its superb looooooooong travel suspension. Open diffs and all.
Nothing beats four wheels on the ground.

Deano

Originally Posted by garrycol

As modern landies have shown wheel travel is arguably not as important as it once was as long as good traction aids are fitted.

Originally Posted by DeanoH

Heresy!

Traction Control is all well and good when it works but when the ABS goes to sleep due to dirt road braking your TC is gone too.
The reason my old 'classic' still cuts it in the bush, skinny tyres and all, is because of its superb looooooooong travel suspension. Open diffs and all.
Nothing beats four wheels on the ground.

Deano

Traction control is great for dealing with the Macca's driveway. Four wheels on the ground is better for the bush.

Originally Posted by rick130

It wouldn't have been a Wrangler Rubicon, they'll outflex a Defender, probably a little Patriot or Compass, which I've just read were originally based on a shared platform with Mitsubishi (think Outlander)

I think all but the wrangler are just the atypical yank SUV (a term i detest) but is an apt description for these glorified mini wagons, completely useless vehicles with lees load space than a small jap sedan and barely enough ground clearance to drive over a crushed coke can.
Talking of the Outlander i see Puegot have rebadged one and stuck an ugly pointy nose on it .

Jeeps don't like water either. A mate of mine ran the croc tent for a year up at cape york and the most wrecked 4wds up there were jeeps. I think it was 60 of the 140 vehicles trayed out of the cape were jeeps - the majority of which had drowned. The other major type were toyotas which had put their thermo fans through their radiators while crossing rivers . Good design that!