Thread: landrovers.... not what they used to be...

Originally Posted by ugu80

Maybe people that don't like Pumas are just jealous that they don't have big bulges. Its bulge envy.

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Who needs a codpiece when you have a litre of displacement per cylinder, a horn and a tree on your roofrack?

If I shouldn't wave to Puma owners because their Landy has a Ford heart, should I be waving to owners of new Ford Territories since they have an LR heart?

So are you only going to wave at 50% of the Series 2 or 3 Landrovers you see because the other 50% has a holden engine, what a lot of bollocks !!

Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh

If I shouldn't wave to Puma owners because their Landy has a Ford heart, should I be waving to owners of new Ford Territories since they have an LR heart?

I would not get too carried away with that logic. The cross fitting of powerplants these days, is pretty much across the board. I doubt you will see Merc. owners acknowledging SSanyong's, or Jeeps, and now you have Subaru and Toyota using shared technology.

Originally Posted by Sue

Ibut maybe I've yet to be affected by the snobbery of people like you who like to put themselves on some sort of fake pedestal by making ridiculous statements like Puma's are not Defenders..

The only thing that statements like that is going to achieve is segregation and animosity between older and newer Defender drivers.. and what a waste of time that is because once the 'old' Defenders were new too.. and I have to wonder if the owners of those vehicles were also ridiculed and snubbed because they were fortunate enough to have a newer version of the same brand of car..

Fake Pedestal is just the sheer fact that owners call it a Puma rather than a Defender. I don't recall any other incidence of this within the Land Rover range or any other manufacturer. I don't recall other Defenders, Discovery's, Rangies or Freelanders being called purely a 200tdi, 300tdi, V8, Tempest, Storm, TD5, 4BD1, Isuzu's or anything like that. Land Rover don't even call it a Puma, so why do owners need that distinction which goes above and beyond and totally unlike any other in the range? Fake Pedestal perhaps? So perhaps lets start by just calling it what it is..... a Defender.


as I get into my Storm now and drive into town to wave to all of the Pumas!

Originally Posted by goingbush

So are you only going to wave at 50% of the Series 2 or 3 Landrovers you see because the other 50% has a holden engine, what a lot of bollocks !!

Engine origins have nothing to do with it, reliability, livability, longevity and functionality have. The Puma has very little of the above and therefore are being shunned out of anywhere but the metropolitan areas by any sane persons because of this. Land rover had the potential to build the most reliable Defender ever built complete with there own (albeit BMW designed) euro emmissions spec engine, but by going with the Ford transit engine they altered many of the essential designs that made a Land Rover so versitile and practical for thousand of the out of suburbia applications. Just because it looks like a 110, doesn't mean it is. It's an SUV, not a light agricultural and ultility vehicle for use on farms in which a Land Rover was and is still supposed to be. Anyone wanting to prove me wrong is more than welcome to put their new Puma up against my real Land Rover, I'd like to see the aftermath of an unmodified Puma's driveline and body after herding animals and pulling stumps out of the ground all day. more to the point where the hell can I mount a rear PTO on a stock standard Puma to run a slasher?

Originally Posted by dobbo

more to the point where the hell can I mount a rear PTO on a stock standard Puma to run a slasher?

Do you do contract work?

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Do you do contract work?

Buy a few sheep instead of a dog that looks like one and you wouldn't have to ask me that question.

Give us a call when your in Sydney next, it'd be good to catch up over a bottle or ten


Saying that who's the bloke who sells his LT95 PTO drive (to power a slasher) then buys a farm?