Another 'expert' offering his opinions.

I think experience in wheel placement is the biggest issue here, and I say that thinking that perhaps the average landy owner has a better idea of where to put his wheels than this guy, its was so obvious that he was getting it wrong to me.

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Originally Posted by F4Phantom

I think experience in wheel placement is the biggest issue here, and I say that thinking that perhaps the average landy owner has a better idea of where to put his wheels than this guy, its was so obvious that he was getting it wrong to me.

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I think it true quite often. I've been out in the past and watched people (in things like Land Cruisers with 6" lift, diff locks and 35" tyres and like) struggle to get over an obstacle that someone with a relatively stock vehicle tackled with no problem. All those mods will only help if you know where your wheels are meant to go in the first place.

I wonder how many people buy a 4WD with all the mods as their first off roader without any real experience of driving without all the assistance. Not starting off with lockers and the like means you have to put some thought into what you're doing rather than just putting your boot down and hoping for the best.

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Originally Posted by Chilly

With you Yorkie...you know the rules...no pics...no happen!!!

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Happy now? :)

Not many "action" photos unfortunately....

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Originally Posted by sam_d

...... 35" tyres and like) struggle to get over an obstacle that someone with a relatively stock vehicle tackled with no problem. All those mods will only help if you know where your wheels are meant to go in the first place........

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On our last time up at Cervantes, we frequented a fishing beach north of the town, accessed via a couple of sand-dune tracks.
The 'Bongo' van managed it quite well with 20 psi in road tyres (4WD Jap TD van).- Until one day when a LandDestroyer came through the track with his humungous wheels and 400 hp V8. - Did a great job of bogging himself and permantly remodelling the sand track. After noticing his rock-hard tyres.... I just backed up and left him for someone else...

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Originally Posted by TimNZ

I had one of my customers ask me why I'd brought such an unreliable car, and why I didn't buy a Toyota. I noticed he was driving a V8 Diesel LC and asked if he had a problem with the oil consumption, he replied "not much, but Toyota have replaced an engine under warranty after it ran out of oil and siezed".

Go figure....

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That's pretty funny! "Not Much..." :D

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I had one of my customers ask me why I'd brought such an unreliable car, and why I didn't buy a Toyota. I noticed he was driving a V8 Diesel LC and asked if he had a problem with the oil consumption, he replied "not much, but Toyota have replaced an engine under warranty after it ran out of oil and siezed".

Go figure....

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Yeah, amazing isn't it - people consider that to be a reliable vehicle, but because the trannie failed on my Rangie at 165KKM, my mates tell me I've got an unreliable vehicle.... When you mention the dramas that Toyota have had with their V8 Diesel, they just say 'Yeah, but it was only on a few, and they have fixed it now'... I would think that there have been more of these engines with issues in the last few years than every Range Rover made in the same period....

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Originally Posted by sam_d

I think it true quite often. I've been out in the past and watched people (in things like Land Cruisers with 6" lift, diff locks and 35" tyres and like) struggle to get over an obstacle that someone with a relatively stock vehicle tackled with no problem. All those mods will only help if you know where your wheels are meant to go in the first place.

I wonder how many people buy a 4WD with all the mods as their first off roader without any real experience of driving without all the assistance. Not starting off with lockers and the like means you have to put some thought into what you're doing rather than just putting your boot down and hoping for the best.

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I always thought that those people with highly modified vehicles were just very poor drivers who needed all the mods to make up for their lack of 4WDing skills. :o :D :wasntme:

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Originally Posted by Xtreme

I always thought that those people with highly modified vehicles were just very poor drivers who needed all the mods to make up for their lack of 4WDing skills. :o :D :wasntme:

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GOLD!!!!

And often bloody true....

Just because they drive a four wheel drive, doesn't mean they know how to drive a four wheel drive!


Cheers, Mick.

Good video. That bloke made hard work of something that seem to be not too difficult, technical prehaps but driveable with a bit of nous and some patience.

Oh yeah on the so-called experts bagging LR's. Gives you the ****s having to listen to there rethoric about something that know SFA about. No point trying to talk sense to a dropkick, as said actions speak louder than words :cool:

Trav