Another 'expert' offering his opinions.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Actually Dave I don't see a problem with the original, just the emphasis!Cheers, Diana

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roughly speaking there are 3 classes of people who sit behind the wheel

steerers, generally do no maintenance or prestarts, know nothing about the vehicle and dont care, the kind of trucky who can get the truck from yard to yard but wont load it, unload it or do more than the barest minimum to make his pay dont care about the vehicle, tend to abuse the vehicle and dont report anything wrong untill its broken down and a minor fault has become a major repair

operators, do their own basic maintenance and prechecks, will report faults, go point to point, park the truck in a good position for load unload and help out with the lash/unlash. dont really care about the vehicle but dont try to abuse it but if it happens it happens

drivers do some preventative maintenance, do some of the more involved maintenance and repairs, are intimately familiar with the vehicles capabilities and requirements, know how to best integrate with the load/unload team, don't abuse the vehicle and usually have enough situation awareness to prevent getting into the situation where the vehicle gets abused.

of course some people prefer to put it down as steerer, driver, operator.

one of the highest compliments I've been paid as a landy driver was from a cruiser driver who cut short a cheque book wheeler mid torrent with simple line of "careful mate, it may be leaf sprung, underpowered and outdated but thats a stock landy and so far hes had less trouble than you"

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Originally Posted by muddymech

on our trip to the cape we were surprised how many of the jap stuff did not attempt anything, taking teh access tracks to watch then access track out.
guess that tells a story in the confidence the owners have in their cars
ian

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We had this experience when in Arkaroola (Flinders Ranges) on our last trip. On the way out to Paralana Hot Springs we were met by 2 LC200's who had turned around as the track was "too rough" to continue.

There was nothing technically hard about the track. It was just slow going due to rain damage. You should have seen the look on their faces, when we said "thanks for the advice" and kept going.

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Originally Posted by sam_d

We didn't have to say anything after this happened..........actions speak louder than words :D:D

80 Series Cruiser vs Land Rover Isuzu County - YouTube

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Love it...

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

roughly speaking there are 3 classes of people who sit behind the wheel

steerers, generally do no maintenance or prestarts, know nothing about the vehicle and dont care, the kind of trucky who can get the truck from yard to yard but wont load it, unload it or do more than the barest minimum to make his pay dont care about the vehicle, tend to abuse the vehicle and dont report anything wrong untill its broken down and a minor fault has become a major repair

operators, do their own basic maintenance and prechecks, will report faults, go point to point, park the truck in a good position for load unload and help out with the lash/unlash. dont really care about the vehicle but dont try to abuse it but if it happens it happens

drivers do some preventative maintenance, do some of the more involved maintenance and repairs, are intimately familiar with the vehicles capabilities and requirements, know how to best integrate with the load/unload team, don't abuse the vehicle and usually have enough situation awareness to prevent getting into the situation where the vehicle gets abused.

of course some people prefer to put it down as steerer, driver, operator.

one of the highest compliments I've been paid as a landy driver was from a cruiser driver who cut short a cheque book wheeler mid torrent with simple line of "careful mate, it may be leaf sprung, underpowered and outdated but thats a stock landy and so far hes had less trouble than you"

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that is a very nice compliment spoken by someone who has been around and gained a bit of life experience

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Originally Posted by Beckford

We had this experience when in Arkaroola (Flinders Ranges) on our last trip. On the way out to Paralana Hot Springs we were met by 2 LC200's who had turned around as the track was "too rough" to continue.

There was nothing technically hard about the track. It was just slow going due to rain damage. You should have seen the look on their faces, when we said "thanks for the advice" and kept going.

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Not quite in the same sphere of technical difficulty but on a Fraser Island trip not too long ago, I met a couple of local Die Hard LR haters.

It was admittedly pretty tough going, had been dry for months and the sand was deep and rutted...but then it rained...so it was deep, wet, heavy and rutted...and Fraser having lots of tight spots, it was often difficult to avoid the ruts, without kissing a tree.

I had to stop because some poor sod in an Xtrail hire car dug himself up to the floor pan, less than a K or so after leaving Orchid Beach. The two likely lads (who were coming in the other direction) were warning us both away from the track....too tough, turn back, etc. The Disco made light work of pulling the Xtrail out of the hole from idle and then a few hundred meters through deep sand to a passing point.

Mr local then concedes that I might make it through, "you've plenty of power haven't you?"

I looked at him and his mate's old Patrols..."yeah, I have enough thanks"

In hindsight, it was tough and I had to stop and change line or speed on numerous occasions all day...but that's the difference between getting and almost getting bogged isn't it?

Plus the Disco makes light work of a lot of things.....

Yeah, I have a rellie with a Triton who used to give me a bit of a ribbing - until I had to tow him out of a bog hole I had driven through on the OTT. Now I stir him for not wanting to get his shiny new Triton dirty like the Disco. :D

Well I think Yoda summed up Toyota/Nissan 4 WD drivers ... "Never kept your eye's on where you were going" ... hump.....or "what you were doing" ...hump.

OR

Hans Solo after Luke made a disparaging remark about the Millenium Falcon ...

"What a load of junk" ........"She may not look like much kid, but she's got it where it counts" and has got me through a lot of tight situations"

A Landrover is one with the Force ....the Force is an energy field found in all living creatures ...it guides us ...binds us as a group and helps make us tollerant of stupid comments from other 4WD who never ever driven one and that is why they fail ......

Cheers

Baggy

I think you're forgetting the most apt star wars line when dealing with the nisota crowd

"I find your lack of faith....disturbing"

I think you guys are onto something good here:

- “Never tell me the odds!”

- “That . . . is why you fail.”

- “It’s not fair! They promised me they fixed it! It’s not my fault!”