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Thread: New Land Rover Defender on cards for 2013

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    it did start off as a jeep(pretty much) so maybe they are going back to that. I just hope they don't make it more expensive, as that would be stupid and just target their other range of vehicles. I did hear somewhere along the grapevine that they were going to make the new defender cheaper, to maybe push sales i dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    So maybe this is how the lineup shape up?

    Disco 5 => G-Wagen
    Defender R => Amarok/HiLux
    Freelander => BMW X3
    DC100 => Jeep Wrangler???

    Disco 5 to take on G-wagen?
    I don’t think so. I see you own a discovery, are you sure you don’t want a defender? The G-wagen is already much like the current defender. Old

    More likely:
    Disco 5 to price down and compete with vehicles like the Land cruiser Prado
    Freelander to hang in there with the cheerful 'sports utility' 4x4s
    Evoque is for the BMWx3 types

    The new Defender should offer much of the same in terms of utility and body options except on a new build so it can be sold at a competitive price worldwide. If they get it right they will increase their take across utility and military markets => G-wagen, Land Cruiser 70, amarok, hilux etc.

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    So we all have our personal views on this

    For me, the ladder chassis and solid axle suspension, payload and off road utility are key. I'm less concerned with engine size. At present the Defender, even in standard Station Wagon configuration has a useable payload well above most of its oriental SUV rivals, and only the G wagen Professional tops the heavy duty Defender pickups for payload (at treble the price).

    These things are important for touring, here in the bush- and across the developing world. Land Rover will not be looking to Europe and Australia for its future market growth for the Defender but to places like India, China and African countries. So if Land Rover want to achieve mass sales they should steer clear of a recreational runabout like the Jeep Wrangler with its 300 kg payload (or DC 100 sport) and go for something with the simplicity of the current basic design, the robustness and reliability of the old style Hilux but with better payload. If they can keep prices down on a working vehicle they will do well.

    Personally this arrangement would suit me well. Those seeking primarily a comfortable touring vehicle might prefer to migrate to the Disco -as I probably will when my needs change.

    Cheers

    Alan

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    I see JLR has done deals for vehicle plants in China and South America and obviously has Tata in India so they certainly have the option to build a low-cost vehicle on each continent, even if the engines are shipped in from their new engine plant in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drover View Post
    Hope fully the engine will the 3.2 Duratorque as found in the UK Transit's or our Ranger/BT50.

    I would give 3.0SDV6 a miss with all of its ongoing issues.

    In any case got my vote for strong diff's with "E lockers".

    Unfortunately you can see the solid beam diff's being replaced for an IRS/IFS set up
    What ongoing issues with the 3.0L....what's a couple of turbos between friends.....LOL????

    I actually think this will be sorted if they haven't already in the later models. The configuration has been used on a Jag without issue I believe, and LR state that they have sorted it. They'd be nuts not to, it must have cost them a fortune.

    Only time will tell I guess.

    It is an awesome engine....even with a leaky turbo....

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