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    There are SO many things I could say. So much rubbish one one thread already !

    As to the last point - It doesn't matter who nearby has strike fighter / air superiority fighter capability...

    Indonesian Air Force Sukhoi Su-27, Sukhoi Su-30, F-16 Fighting Falcon
    Royal Malaysian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30MKM, Boeing F/A-18 Hornet
    (not to mention the Indians who will soon have a number of carriers)

    but perhaps you have forgotten that we do a lot of overseas deployments.
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    The Australian Defense Force is a team.
    While there is always inter-service rivalry, we all do different jobs.
    The Armys Job is to seize and Hold ground, something the Airforce and Navy can't do.
    The Army can't deliver ship killing missiles, The Airforce can't patrol a town.
    If the public can't support the people the Men and Women who put themselves in harms way for our sake then we come from a pretty shallow society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymie View Post
    The Australian Defense Force is a team.
    While there is always inter-service rivalry, we all do different jobs.
    The Armys Job is to seize and Hold ground, something the Airforce and Navy can't do.
    The Army can't deliver ship killing missiles, The Airforce can't patrol a town.
    If the public can't support the people the Men and Women who put themselves in harms way for our sake then we come from a pretty shallow society.
    Hmmm... I support the men and women that put themselves in harm's way for our sake, just as I recognise the last time that the men and women have truly put themselves in harms way "for our sake" has been long before I was born.

    Ever since WWII, our men and women have been put in harm's way for BS agendas that I don't feel serve Australia's interests IMHO. And that's not their fault, but that of the politicians who make the decisions to send them places 'we' shouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offender90 View Post
    put themselves in harms way "for our sake"
    i have two ways of looking at this.

    putting yourself in harms way for someone else's sake is a good cause.

    or

    getting field experience for when we really need it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post

    or

    getting field experience for when we really need it
    That is fairly spot on , I would suggest. Any student of history would remind us of how unprepared we were against the Japanese in Singapore, Dutch East Indies, and Papua New Guinea 1941/1942. Of course, the depression and dependance on Great Britain for our defence did not help. In the future, we must be prepared to help ourselves, and alliances with our allies is a big step in the right direction. However, alliances demand a reciprical scratching of backs, a sometimes annoying necessity. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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