Thread: Not good news

Originally Posted by Aussie

I wonder, if LR were on top of the survey how many of you would still say the survey is crap..

Don't hold your breath...

This is not a new thing, LR have been doing it for a long time now, "cheap" where they think they can, coupled with outdated and inefficient design... and that's just the production facilities - never mind the vehicle.

We promise not to mention the Plastic head-locating Dowells... or the progressive & inexorable removing of a centre diff-lock.... and the co$t to the owner/enthusiast of re-fitting it...

Lexus and Toyota etc build 'Fit For the Purpose' of their target market, and their consistant high ratings reflects this.

In all fairness, anything 50% above Industry Average is commendable.

LR have failed to meet the same level of building 'Fit for the Purpose' of what they perceive as the target market... Who cares if the LR is the only 4WD capable of driving over a demonstration arch... They can't be relied upon to do it every time.! Or get back home from going 'where no other 4WD has been before'.

Now if LR had allowed the Japs, say Mazda, to re-design, replace and build it to their standards.....

Just glad that no-one believes Nissan diffs/axles to be better than LR butter-sticks...

Maybe a special Driver's Licence for Landys... some mechanical aptitude and loads of humour and patience a pre-requisite....

School Bus drivers over here will soon have to demonstrate competance and (physical) ability for minor mechanical diagnosis and roadside repairs, including wheel-changing.

Originally Posted by Tusker

The J D Power survey again.. And another misleading headline. Again.

Every year this happens. J D Power has nothing to do with "dependability". Its owner complaint driven.

All it tells you is LandRover have had a number of owner responses. Could be anything. Not that long ago, Mercedes Benz was bottom of the pile coz one model had key fob issues.

J D Power is only good for subsequent misleading headlines.

Regards
Max P

Exactly right,it's not a reliability survey but an owners complaint survey.The RRS was marked down because the Yank owners said the steering turned too quickly,the RR was also complained about because the 1Ltre drink containers they have don't fit in the cup holders and VW had owners sooking about the seats being too tight,maybe if 70% of them weren't overweight or obese they'd fit OK. Pat

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Jeep. (maybe others)

It could be argued that companies with a smaller and more specialised model range should have fewer complaints.

For those who think the results are so incorrect or floored - where is a comparative reliability assessment in which LR scored well?

Easy,ask us.Seriously do you honestly think we would drive and own a vehicle that going by the survey has 220 breakdown/faults?,thats a fault/breakdown every 1.5 days or there abouts. Pat

Originally Posted by superquag

Don't hold your breath...

This is not a new thing, LR have been doing it for a long time now, "cheap" where they think they can, coupled with outdated and inefficient design... and that's just the production facilities - never mind the vehicle.

We promise not to mention the Plastic head-locating Dowells... or the progressive & inexorable removing of a centre diff-lock.... and the co$t to the owner/enthusiast of re-fitting it...

Lexus and Toyota etc build 'Fit For the Purpose' of their target market, and their consistant high ratings reflects this.

In all fairness, anything 50% above Industry Average is commendable.

LR have failed to meet the same level of building 'Fit for the Purpose' of what they perceive as the target market... Who cares if the LR is the only 4WD capable of driving over a demonstration arch... They can't be relied upon to do it every time.! Or get back home from going 'where no other 4WD has been before'.

Now if LR had allowed the Japs, say Mazda, to re-design, replace and build it to their standards.....

Just glad that no-one believes Nissan diffs/axles to be better than LR butter-sticks...

Get a few mates,one each in a showroom stock hilux,cruiser and 200 series and I'll get my Defender and we'll drive the outback tracks and see which one is built for purpose. Pat

Get a few mates,one each in a showroom stock hilux,cruiser and 200 series and I'll get my Defender and we'll drive the outback tracks and see which one is built for purpose. Pat

Well at least you'll have several recovery vehicles which is nice.

I don't get out to the forest much these days but in all my time i have never seen one of the "Top Ten" Coming or going along forest trails.Tar Babies!!

HA!

BMW the most reliable car!

Gee. Hasn't the year has gone quick. April the first already.