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    After-market accessories, do Toyota, Nissan, Jeep etc approve them.

    I am investigating the fitting of after market accessories. There are reasons for the investigation but I am currently unable to disclose to the forum at this present time but the results may be of benefit to all.

    Having been informed by my dealer that an accessory like LIAMS (used to lower the D4 to bump stops for my wheelchair bound dad) or an after-market camera installed to the HiICE screen may void my LR Warranty.

    Has anyone had experience with other 4WD manufacturers (Toyota, Nissan, Jeep, Mitsubishi, VW etc) either accepting or rejecting the fitting of after-market accessories.?

    Was that experience with market leader brands like ARB, Oposite Lock etc and what happened?

    Are there any documents from other 4WD manufacturers approving after-market accessories?

    If you can post in the thread or send me a PM in the next week or so it would be good.

    Diana

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    Friend purchased a Mitsubishi

    No non-genuine accessories were allowed to be fitted by the dealer (MMAL policy)


    I have got the LRA equivalent version of the same document on my laptop at home.

    Tinting seems about the max they can do.

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    Regarding warranty...

    If the part can be shown to have caused a problem then yes they can void warranty.

    Proof rests with you - and can get expensive

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    I can understand part of a warranty being invalidated by fitment of an aftermarket part. For example fitting gas to a petrol vehicle typically invalidates the engine warranty but the gas installer then covers the warranty on the engine.

    Are you suggesting that fitting one aftermarket part invalidates the whole vehicle warranty ?



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    Hi guys

    While a discussion on warranty is a valid conversation, for this purpose it's not what I need.

    What I am after is if other 4WD manufacturers have different policies on after market accessories, particularly front and rear protection, long range tanks, additional batteries etc affecting or not affecting warranty. Of interest is if any 4WD manufacturer actually approve after-market accessories and which one/s.

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    I cannot answer your question directly but my brother bought a new HiLux two years ago and the dealer fitted an ARB bar and an ARB rear bar as part of the sale so I guess some manufacturers do have a list of "authorised after market" fitments.

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    Hi Diana,

    Why not get in touch with the other affected parties:

    The Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association:
    Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association
    They have a NSW Office at Penrith.

    They are certainly interested in the following Industry Issues

    Warranties
    AAAA Submission to Federal Review of Warranties (2009)
    http://www.aaaa.com.au/files/issues/...on%20Final.pdf

    p10. "Many express warranties contain conditions stating that the entire warranty may be voided if “non-genuine” parts are fitted. Therefore, a consumer who replaces the tyres on their vehicle with a set that has identical specifications to the original equipment, but with a different brand, would breach their entire express warranty. A question the consumer may rightly ask is how would this impact on the performance of the rest of the vehicle?"

    Bullbar legislation
    AAAA Position Paper on Bullbars (2009):
    http://www.aaaa.com.au/files/issues/...erBullbars.pdf

    SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
    The AAAA has launched two special interest groups dedicated to prominent sectors in the Australian Automotive Aftermarket. The first launched in late 2005 was the Performance, Racing and Tuning Council (Performance, Racing and Tuning Council) and in November 2006, the Australian 4WD Industry Council (4WD Council) was launched.

    Issues Register

    The focus of the Australian 4WD Industry Council is 4WD related products and vehicle modification, but we are interested in what interests 4WD people. If you are a 4WD business, a 4WD owner, or have a 4WD related interest and you have an issue - put your comments on the Australian 4WD Industry Council Issues Register.

    Your input helps the 4WD Council committee deal with issues that affect 4WD people. The 4WD Committee of Industry people will raise your input with relevant State and Federal Authorities, according to a priority that best benefits the 4WD Industry. Note that the 4WD Council deals with issues on an Industry basis only and does not advocate individual vehicle situations with authorities.

    The Australian 4WD Industry Council

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I cannot answer your question directly but my brother bought a new HiLux two years ago and the dealer fitted an ARB bar and an ARB rear bar as part of the sale so I guess some manufacturers do have a list of "authorised after market" fitments.

    Garry
    Hi Garry

    In your brother's situation the question could be asked if the HiLux subsequently carried a dealer warranty or a Toyota one.

    It would be nice if we knew that Toyota approved ARB supplied and fitted accessories.

    But all helps.

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    Thanks Bob

    Interesting information, however the two main documents are discussion papers submitted to Government, they do not specify actual legislative responses to the submissions.

    What we are looking at is what are automotice manufacturers LRA, Toyota, Nissan, MMAL Jeep etc required to do under current legislation on warranties and what do they do.

    One situation is on a car, bought second hand still under the manufacturer's warranty. It had a pre-existing fault that should have been fixed prior to the 2nd owner taking possession, but the dealer did not fix the fault. The second owner then had an after-market bar fitted and the dealer and manufacturer refused to fix the fault under warranty on the basis of the after market accessory.

    So it comes to the issue at hand, if not the legislative requirements, what is the industry standard between manufacturers? Surely if one manufacturer accepts particular after market accessories under the warranty and others don't then the first manufacturer is at a competitative advantage over the ones that don't.

    Wouldn't we all like LRA to the the manufacturer at the competative advantage or at least on par, instead of Toyota or Jeep etc?

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    Diana,

    I've had a hunt around and pretty much found the opposite of the evidence you were looking for.

    Both Jeep and Toyota had much the same statement to make - if you fit accessories that are not genuine accessories from their catalogue, then they reserve the right to invalidate your warranty. Any non-genuine accessories fitted by a dealer would be covered only by a dealer warranty.

    For some reason, my iPad is not allowing me to embed the hyperlink to the two documents I found (the Jeep one was Jeep Australia, but the Toyota one was a US document, and purportedly covered all Toyota group companies).

    Once I can get to sit at my desk, I'll try again.

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