Thread: Organ Donor

Originally Posted by V8Ian

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

so you believe that skill plays no part in our driving? and it was pure luck that allowed me to get to work today?

Ghost rider has been riding for years..
There's a lot of skill in his riding.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Ghost rider has been riding for years..
There's a lot of skill in his riding.

im not sure if the moscow one is the same as the one from belgium (?)

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Passing a vehicle on the right is a legitimate manouvre, even in the same lane. Riding a motorcycle at a speed slightly higher than the surrounding traffic is defensive riding, not necessarily legal though. I'm not saying that the fellow in your video was riding defensively.

I have a recent ticket to argue with you on this. As well as one from 12 months ago. The only time it's legal to pass a vehicle in the same lane is if it is safe to do so, AND the vehicle being passed has signaled it's intention to leave the carriageway.

The OP video - it's a young person (only on a 250), so suffering from typical young person syndrome - being important enough to not have to worry about obeying the law or respect other road users, while at the same time being indestructible. You see many car drivers with the same attitude. The major difference is how many innocent people your average dangerous motorcycle rider can maim or kill, compared to a car driver. I lane split as well, but only at low speed, through traffic that is stopped or moving slowly. I've also (educated guess) been riding for a lot longer than that squid, so I would bet my ability to judge the movements of the traffic and react accordingly would be better.

He's still a reckless young kid that will hopefully learn better before doing away with himself or others, but I'd rather see this than a Commodore or WRX driving with the same abandon. He leaves a lot better chance for me and my family to get home.

The "Ghost Rider"... has been around for so long. Even before youtube. And, to be sure, there are many riders who apply the moniker to themselves when uploading to youtube. A combination of skill AND luck is required to survive such a ride. Anybody who argues that it's only one or the other has no grasp of the realities of riding a motorcycle.

Originally Posted by TeamFA

A combination of skill AND luck is required to survive such a ride.

so why is luck required?

it's not a roll of the dice

Originally Posted by Eevo

so why is luck required?

it's not a roll of the dice

Because you can only control so much yourself. The rest of it, other drivers, road surface conditions, freak occurrences, are out of your control.

Originally Posted by sheerluck

Because you can only control so much yourself. The rest of it, other drivers, road surface conditions, freak occurrences, are out of your control.

without all these factors outside of our control, its a wonder people arnt dying left right and centre

Originally Posted by Eevo

without all these factors outside of our control, its a wonder people arnt dying left right and centre

They are.

Have you never watched the news and seen freak road accidents? Tyres coming off trucks and wiping out a car, trucks dropping rocks off the back and squashing a driver? Cars having a tyre blowout and wiping out the biker next to them? Big Kangaroo hopping out from the bushes in front of a car, putting it in a ditch?

Call it what you like, luck, fate, **** happens. But it happens. And it's unlikely skill will help if it does happen.