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Ok, I am offering to be the dissenting voice here. So flame away.
IF the enthusiasts cars (as we may well call our LR's) were 'registered for street use' then is it not reasonable that they be 'street legal'?
I see that it's like saying - 'it's a 57 chev - I should be allowed to have darker tint than a hyundai'!
On the subject of fishing, it's poor PR to be sure BUT if there were a long list of defects (I don't know if there were) then I get the premise of the sting...the crooks have all gathered together! I say crooks in a tongue in cheek fashion as the law has been broken regardless of the cars vintage.

That being said, would I have done it? No. What I would have done was set up a police checking station at the event and advised drivers as a courtesy that all defects would be reported to the governing club body with a please explain and until next meet to rectify. More a service than enforcement.

Now, before you flame me mercilessly, I am not without fault. I do break the law at times. Sometimes often. I choose to play percentages with the john hops.

Cheers
Ralph

Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

Ok, I am offering to be the dissenting voice here. So flame away.
IF the enthusiasts cars (as we may well call our LR's) were 'registered for street use' then is it not reasonable that they be 'street legal'?
I see that it's like saying - 'it's a 57 chev - I should be allowed to have darker tint than a hyundai'!
On the subject of fishing, it's poor PR to be sure BUT if there were a long list of defects (I don't know if there were) then I get the premise of the sting...the crooks have all gathered together! I say crooks in a tongue in cheek fashion as the law has been broken regardless of the cars vintage.

That being said, would I have done it? No. What I would have done was set up a police checking station at the event and advised drivers as a courtesy that all defects would be reported to the governing club body with a please explain and until next meet to rectify. More a service than enforcement.

Now, before you flame me mercilessly, I am not without fault. I do break the law at times. Sometimes often. I choose to play percentages with the john hops.

Cheers
Ralph

Too right, if they are not "street legal", sure, put a defect notice on them.
The example given was way out of line. "We will keep going until we find something" on a new dealer supplied vehicle.smacks of being a fit up. This sort of thing happened to a friend one night. They were looking for drugs because he had a syringe in his glove box. "Arrest me or I'm driving home" he said. Called their bluff. Spent the next day reassembling his car. The local coppers obviously had never heard of diabetes. But I digress.
They were "profiling" to set up at the event. They're not allowed to racially profile. Yes, it's not the same but I'm sure you understand what I am getting at.
At the end of the day, it was a very bad PR exercise for the state. Who would possibly want to spend a tourist dollar in that state if they risk being profiled and victimised.
Not I.
The next event should be held in friendly Victoria. We love taking your tourist dollar.

Better get used to it, Australia is rapidly becoming a police state.

keep in mind it's all hear say, we only have one side of the story

i think the premiers respose was spot on

if anybody thought there wouldn't be extra police resources alloacated to such a big event must be living under a mushroom.....

its no different to police setting up outside a 4wd park.....if your car is legal than all is good

Originally Posted by weeds

keep in mind it's all hear say, we only have one side of the story

i think the premiers respose was spot on

if anybody thought there wouldn't be extra police resources alloacated to such a big event must be living under a mushroom.....

its no different to police setting up outside a 4wd park.....if your car is legal than all is good

I agree with what you type Weeds, however, did you read the example given? It was clear to me, even if all was legal, all was not good.
I think what was at issued here was the targeted unfairness. The discrimination.
The attitude was not "we will look to find any faults" but "we will look to find a fault, and if we find none, we will keep looking until we do".
That is what I got from the article after reading it.

Ralph is pretty much right in what he says in that if it's registered it must be roadworthy. The bit that stirs me is that car enthusiasts have for too long been seen by the authorities as easy prey and I'll only stop believing that what's happening is victimisation when these types of operations are played out across the board i.e. shopping centre carparks, sporting events, service centres on highways during holiday times etc.. Go ask any mechanic or tyre fitter and they'll reassure you that shiny paint, mag wheels and a loud stereo are not prerequisites for a defective vehicle. I might add that in NSW our finest need only to suspect that the vehicle is defective to issue a defect notice. In the event that the defect was incorrectly issued, you've got more hope of selling a pork sandwich in a Jewish mosque than you have of getting any compensation for time and / or expenses incurred getting "the defect" cleared.

It's all well and good saying they should be roadworthy, but what land rover owner wouldn't get pinged for oil leaks if the cop wanted too! My disco can sit in the garage all week and not drip but if you run your hand along the steering pipes or the bell housing you'll get oil...some cops are great and others are... just .....not nice.....Gary

Originally Posted by Stuck

Ralph is pretty much right in what he says in that if it's registered it must be roadworthy. ...

When I took my 110 over "the pits" to change over to WA rego I was told the FACTORY ORIGINAL exhaust outlet position was illegal. After being forced to replace the tip with a downward facing one, I saw several WA-delivered 110s with the identical exhaust.