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    Quote Originally Posted by Reads90 View Post
    What! Don't get that.
    I thought that sounded a bit low too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reads90 View Post
    What I am saying is why should employer pay an extra 17.5% to you when you not there.
    My employer doesn't. Doesn't even pay me when I'm not there.
    It is included in the hourly rate. I don't find life financially a struggle but......,
    I have met many in retail who do and rely on penalty rates to be able to pay the rent and utilities. I agree you and I shouldn't be paid whilst we're not there but I see no reason for taking anything away from the low paid workers and not giving anything to compensate for the reduction in income.

    I trust you will be giving your holiday pay back to your employer advising him you don't deserve it. I don't get paid whilst I'm on holidays.

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    It's all academic, soon we will be a Nation of casual workers, no overtime, no penalty rates [ already happening in the Post Office] except for those in management who are prepared to sell their soul to their corporate bosses. How many out there are actually working extra hours for nothing, sucking up in the hope of getting on the band wagon. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    It's all academic, soon we will be a Nation of casual workers, no overtime, no penalty rates [ already happening in the Post Office] except for those in management who are prepared to sell their soul to their corporate bosses. How many out there are actually working extra hours for nothing, sucking up in the hope of getting on the band wagon. Bob
    Only if we let 'em it's a democracy after all??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    It's all academic, soon we will be a Nation of casual workers, no overtime, no penalty rates [ already happening in the Post Office] except for those in management who are prepared to sell their soul to their corporate bosses. How many out there are actually working extra hours for nothing, sucking up in the hope of getting on the band wagon. Bob
    Nah, just enough casuals to cover week to week variations in staffing requirements. The permanents can still have their contracted 40 hours a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbotd5 View Post
    Only if we let 'em it's a democracy after all??
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    Sure is, that's why we have those nasty Unions, the thugs Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefish View Post
    The permanents can still have their contracted 40 hours a week.
    For how long? When the permanent worker leaves, a casual takes his place. Soon, no permanents. Only a matter of time. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I am still waiting for management to take a big pay cut, and work without a bonus.
    I dont think this will be happening any time soon.
    I worked in Australias largest manufacturer 3 years ago, when the company lost over a billion dollars in one year and the boss still wanted his million plus bonus.....

    Remember retail has a lot of our children working in it.
    One of my local supermarkets is such a scab the poor kids are booked to work 3 3/4 hour per shift, coz if they book 4 hours a shift the kids have to get a teabreak.

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    A workforce of casuals that don't have to turn up on a beautiful sunny day, throw sickies for as long as they like without notice, long weekends, take better jobs when they come along. Business and workforce have an equal commitment to each other. I guess you could replace a casual with another casual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    A workforce of casuals that don't have to turn up on a beautiful sunny day, throw sickies for as long as they like without notice, long weekends, take better jobs when they come along. Business and workforce have an equal commitment to each other. I guess you could replace a casual with another casual.
    Unless it's a nice sunny day. Then you'll have to pay penalty rates to encourage some to turn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    For how long? When the permanent worker leaves, a casual takes his place. Soon, no permanents. Only a matter of time. Bob
    Well I guess it is up to individual businesses and their requirements. Some staff like the security of being permanent; others like the flexibility of being casual. I find having a combination of both staff types helpful, combining fixed base-load staffing with flexibility particularly when covering leave and busy periods. All casuals is a bit of a pain (in part for reasons mentioned in posts above) couldn't see many going down this path.

    There's alway going to be issues with allocating shifts, but as I've mentioned, I find weekend penalties the most unfair. Why should a worker who is only available on weekends get paid double what their co-workers do, or alternatively not be offered work at all because weekends are already spoken for?

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