Your favourite land rover diesel engine

**bob10** · 17th October 2013, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by VladTepes

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Somewhere in there, there is a message, Bob

**Dougal** · 17th October 2013, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by bob10

Somewhere in there, there is a message, Bob

It's a magic eye thing. Stare at it crosseyed for long enough and it says td5.

**Tote** · 17th October 2013, 08:19 PM

TDI 300, even from new that puff of black smoke when they start smelt like a steam train.

Regards,
Tote

Davehoos · 17th October 2013, 08:37 PM

4BD1/ 4BD1T [IHI].

I would be happy with the smaller capacity version or the small 6 cyl.
6BB1

**Eevo** · 17th October 2013, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

As Will says, Td5 wins by default

And because it's easy to work on, smooth, powerful, economical, and versatile.

troll

**Sitec** · 17th October 2013, 08:53 PM

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IoH2WA7ilqw[/ame]

Does this count? Not the smoothest of 6's but a 6 cylinder version of the 2.286 diesel none the less.. Now, if they'd done this with the Tdi or Td5 they'd have been onto something! For me tho, Td5... Purely for the sound it makes when chipped and with a decent exhaust!!

**isuzutoo-eh** · 17th October 2013, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by 2stroke

My vote's for the 300 Tdi, sure it's a bit underpowered down low, also a bit underpowered at high revs, the timing belt needs lovin every couple years (at least I get the radiator rodded at the same time) but it's simple. A couple of weeks ago on our CSR trip, just after well 49, the alternator seized the pulley end bearing and the casing broke as we attempted to fix it. The aircon belt fits around the crank, cooling fan, waterpump and reversed around the steer pump. We did 500 km in 5 days like that, try doing that in your fancy Td5 or Puma, in fact I don't even think you could do that in an Isuzu?

Well, there's no timing belt in the 4BD1 to worry about...
There's also no worry about the power steering pump, as that is gear driven off the timing gears too and seems to survive for the life of the engine.
There is nothing requiring electricity to run, not even an electric fuel pump, so the alternator isn't necessary.
So once it is started, it'd only need a couple of bootlaces to keep the water pump spinning to keep the 4BD1 going.

**Disco Muppet** · 17th October 2013, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Eevo

troll

Pot, Kettle, Black?

Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh

Well, there's no timing belt in the 4BD1 to worry about...
There's also no worry about the power steering pump, as that is gear driven off the timing gears too and seems to survive for the life of the engine.
There is nothing requiring electricity to run, not even an electric fuel pump, so the alternator isn't necessary.
So once it is started, it'd only need a couple of bootlaces to keep the water pump spinning to keep the 4BD1 going.

What about Brake light switches

**isuzutoo-eh** · 17th October 2013, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

Pot, Kettle, Black?

What about Brake light switches

Didn't stop the vehicle, just the operator

2stroke · 17th October 2013, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh

Well, there's no timing belt in the 4BD1 to worry about...
There's also no worry about the power steering pump, as that is gear driven off the timing gears too and seems to survive for the life of the engine.
There is nothing requiring electricity to run, not even an electric fuel pump, so the alternator isn't necessary.
So once it is started, it'd only need a couple of bootlaces to keep the water pump spinning to keep the 4BD1 going.

Is the vac pump on the alternator? Been a while since I've been under an Isuzu bonnet perhaps you might say the same?

The vac pump would be oil fed of course?
An incredibly lucky fluke of engineering that made it possible to swap the belts as I did and I'll take a spare alt in future (since I now have a bosch off a ford modified to fit). Of course a true boy scout would have already had a shorter belt to cover such an issue.

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