Thread: Anger over 4WD Access.

Even people who think they are doing the right thing can be a bit stupid. Take 4wd TV. Their motto is Tread Lightly, Keep it Safe, Play Hard. The clips playing behind said motto are of heavily modified 4wd's on 35's ripping the crap out of tracks, leaping all 4 wheels off the ground or flipping onto their side. Tread lightly compared to what?

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Originally Posted by Eevo
i get annoyed cause i do nothing wrong, but i wont go clean up other people's rubbish cause thats giving them the wrong idea that someone will clean up after them.

Well.... if SOMEONE doesn't clean up, you lose it! Sorry but the premise you use is flawed.

I, and I know several others will generally come out of the bush with a couple of bags of other peoples rubbish after a few days bush. Happy to do it? NO. I do it because I want to remove the excuse to close down an area due to all the reasons stated regarding Stockton (which I've never been to btw).

WE as 4wders who love our hobby and lifestyle should always be willing to to 'cover' for a few idiots who threaten what we love to protect our position as of right.

Soap Box now under the stairs

You should see the amount of rubbish 1000 kids at a school cangenerate in a day, despite frequent campaigns to get them to put it in the bin.
We approach this in two ways:
1. We have regular cleanups where all the students are sent out in groups to clean up areas, in the hope they will get the message.
2. Staff doing duty pick up obvious rubbish that area.
The theory is that if there is lots of rubbish, people will think its OK to drop more rubbish, but if the rubbish is regularly removed, they are more likely to realise its NOT OK and put it in the bin. I've lived in countries where rubbish was just strewn everywhere and I didn't like it one bit. Cleaning up is just one little thing we can do to make a better planet for all.
So, I'd cleanup to a reasonable degree in an area (while quietly grumbling about the lazy sods who dropped it).

I once made the mistake of saying to a student, "You wouldn't drop rubbish on the floor in your bedroom like that, would you?" His reply: "Yeah, all the time." God, save us all!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
i get annoyed cause i do nothing wrong, but i wont go clean up other people's rubbish cause thats giving them the wrong idea that someone will clean up after them.

Well.... if SOMEONE doesn't clean up, you lose it! Sorry but the premise you use is flawed.

I, and I know several others will generally come out of the bush with a couple of bags of other peoples rubbish after a few days bush. Happy to do it? NO. I do it because I want to remove the excuse to close down an area due to all the reasons stated regarding Stockton (which I've never been to btw).

WE as 4wders who love our hobby and lifestyle should always be willing to to 'cover' for a few idiots who threaten what we love to protect our position as of right.

Soap Box now under the stairs

You should see the amount of rubbish 1000 kids at a school can generate in a day, despite frequent campaigns to get them to put it in the bin.
We approach this in two ways:
1. We have regular cleanups where all the students are sent out in groups to clean up areas, in the hope they will get the message.
2. Staff doing duty pick up obvious rubbish in that area.
The theory is that if there is lots of rubbish, people will think its OK to drop more rubbish, but if the rubbish is regularly removed, they are more likely to realise its NOT OK and put it in the bin.
So, I'd cleanup to a reasonable degree in an area (while quietly grumbling about the lazy sods who dropped it).