Facts on Disco vs Defender

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Originally Posted by LowRanger

It depends on WHERE you want to go!!!! and how easily you want to get there.Don't forget,you can drag anything virtually anywhere you want,it all comes down to effort and desire;)

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Perhaps you should watch this, the interesting bit is at the end. Life is a learning curve, after all. ;)Bob

Ford Model T - 100 Years Later - YouTube

You will get old anything with the odd bit of trim with issues. I havent seen it on the ones I own or have seen. Perhaps the one above has been baked nicely in the sun.

Iove the comment about discos having a lot lie down. This is one of the most useless thteads I have seen..


Cheers

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Originally Posted by joel0407

I'm going to make a brave comment here on a Land Rover forum. My choice would be between a Disco and a Land Cruiser 75 Series.

It's taken a long while for the Disco 2 to grow on me but I love it now and spend a far amount of time defending it with mates. It's got all the fruit and once you know how it all works it's not bad at all to keep it all going. It's got to be the most comfortable 4x4 going and doesnt give anything up in off road capabilty for the comfort.

The defender however, not that I have ever owned one, has all the usuall Land Rover quirks to get used to but has nothing more to offer than a 75 series Toyota. I mean it's rough, built like a tin box, leaks, noisy, all that kind of stuff. The defender doesnt get things done with finess, it uses toughness and force. I'm sorry but when it comes to toughness and force a 75 series Toyota will have it over a Land Rover. Next time you have a aluminium soft drink can and a steel baked bean tin, jump on them and bashe them around and see which one comes out the best.

I find that the Disco with it's ACE and traction control allow it to do better than most Toyotas and the Disco will do it with finess. With the few off road assistance the Disco has, I watch mates in there Toyotas take run ups and bounce up hills where I can drive up slowly in the Disco with the wheels walking through the undulations and the traction control taking care of things when wheels start to spin.

Happy Days.

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Have you been smoking crack or does your Pc need a breathalyser?

Really is a useless thread...
Seriously though I think all 3 are good 4x4s (since we're now including 75 series). The toyotas are durable, reliable but when they go wrong they often do it in a big way and are WAY overpriced and overrated. Disco, cheap buy in, comfy, they wheel well if not carrying a lot of weight but legal tyre options are too small and then there's the body damage. Defender carrys a load well over rough terrain, between the two for comfort, only problem regards body damage is the roof (on mine at least). The brute force thing must be crack related though ;)
On our Canning Stock Route trip I averaged 11.5 L/100 km (in a 300 Tdi Deafener) and the 2 cruisers averaged 16.5 L/100km. No comparison really.
The main thing is the Disco is much softer in spring rate, will always wheel better empty than the other 2, try putting a tonne on it though.:D

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Originally Posted by bob10

Perhaps you should watch this, the interesting bit is at the end. Life is a learning curve, after all. ;)Bob

Ford Model T - 100 Years Later - YouTube

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Interesting bit is seeing that gravity still works;)Notice how it didn't show any actually going up!!!! Ever seen a VW Beetle off road?
As I said.....it depends on where you want to go and how easily you want to get there;)

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Originally Posted by LowRanger

Interesting bit is seeing that gravity still works;)Notice how it didn't show any actually going up!!!! Ever seen a VW Beetle off road?
As I said.....it depends on where you want to go and how easily you want to get there;)

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Ever heard of the combi wagons that made it to the Cape, before it was made fashionable? Did you know the first vehicle to make it to Darwin from Adelaide was this one-



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...13/11/1600.jpg
Stuck near Marree.
The first to travel from Adelaide to Darwin by car were Harry Dutton of Anlaby Station and Murray Aunger. They used a 24 horsepower Talbot (not a 4WD) which they had named Angelina. They called in at the Alice Springs Overland Telegraph station in December 1907 and were the guests of the Bradshaw family. They were held up at Barrow Creek for four days, but with the mud and torrential rains of the wet season had to abandon both the trip and their £900 car near Tennant Creek in the middle of nowhere. They were back the next year with another Talbot, repaired Angelina, picked up Ernest Allchurch and continued their trip in two cars to Darwin and back. Dutton, born in 1879 was the son of Anlaby station owner who had bought a motor cycle in 1906 to collect the mail from nearby Kapunda in 1906. Aunger, born in 1878, was a champion cyclist. In 1900 he had assisted Vivian Lewis to build South Australia’s first motorcar. The Lewis Motor and Cycle Works became Adelaide’s Talbot agents and in May 1907 Murray delivered the Dutton’s first car to Anlaby – the Angelina. In 1907 they tried to cross the

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Originally Posted by joel0407

I'm going to make a brave comment here on a Land Rover forum. My choice would be between a Disco and a Land Cruiser 75 Series.

It's taken a long while for the Disco 2 to grow on me but I love it now and spend a far amount of time defending it with mates. It's got all the fruit and once you know how it all works it's not bad at all to keep it all going. It's got to be the most comfortable 4x4 going and doesnt give anything up in off road capabilty for the comfort.

The defender however, not that I have ever owned one, has all the usuall Land Rover quirks to get used to but has nothing more to offer than a 75 series Toyota. I mean it's rough, built like a tin box, leaks, noisy, all that kind of stuff. The defender doesnt get things done with finess, it uses toughness and force. I'm sorry but when it comes to toughness and force a 75 series Toyota will have it over a Land Rover. Next time you have a aluminium soft drink can and a steel baked bean tin, jump on them and bashe them around and see which one comes out the best.

I find that the Disco with it's ACE and traction control allow it to do better than most Toyotas and the Disco will do it with finess. With the few off road assistance the Disco has, I watch mates in there Toyotas take run ups and bounce up hills where I can drive up slowly in the Disco with the wheels walking through the undulations and the traction control taking care of things when wheels start to spin.

Happy Days.

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That's a load of bollocks.

Defenders don't need brute force, after all they have the suspension of the original luxury 4WD, the Range Rover, a Defender doesn't need brute force, just drive it with control.

Have you driven any Land Rover other than a D2?

I think you'd find it has the lowest ride quality of all the coiled live axles Landies, that's my opinion though, I had a D1 (foolishly sold it, I'll never stop regretting that) and bought a RRC as I missed the ride quality! D2's are rough because they handle well in the bends!

In my opinion (and I virtually learnt to drive in one) a 75 series is a very different machine to a Land Rover, if you want a bull dozer, just buy a CAT.

Cheers
Will

EDIT: I drive a D2, and I don't think it's finessful off-road at all, it's too stiff. Traction control and RRC flex would be amazing, so I give you... the DEFENDER. ;)

This thread has turned into the equivalent of a "my *****bigger than yours" type argument. Buy whatever you want, and be happy with it.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Ever heard of the combi wagons that made it to the Cape, before it was made fashionable? Did you know the first vehicle to make it to Darwin from Adelaide was this one-



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...13/11/1600.jpg
Stuck near Marree.
The first to travel from Adelaide to Darwin by car were Harry Dutton of Anlaby Station and Murray Aunger. They used a 24 horsepower Talbot (not a 4WD) which they had named Angelina. They called in at the Alice Springs Overland Telegraph station in December 1907 and were the guests of the Bradshaw family. They were held up at Barrow Creek for four days, but with the mud and torrential rains of the wet season had to abandon both the trip and their £900 car near Tennant Creek in the middle of nowhere. They were back the next year with another Talbot, repaired Angelina, picked up Ernest Allchurch and continued their trip in two cars to Darwin and back. Dutton, born in 1879 was the son of Anlaby station owner who had bought a motor cycle in 1906 to collect the mail from nearby Kapunda in 1906. Aunger, born in 1878, was a champion cyclist. In 1900 he had assisted Vivian Lewis to build South Australia’s first motorcar. The Lewis Motor and Cycle Works became Adelaide’s Talbot agents and in May 1907 Murray delivered the Dutton’s first car to Anlaby – the Angelina. In 1907 they tried to cross the

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Glad that you agree that it is all about how easily you want to get there,as I said,you can drag anything virtually anywhere;)

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

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wow you must have an expensive microwave if it has apps :p