Waking up Australia to compassion.

**steane** · 25th November 2013, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Mr steane, I have studied your post to find errors in it. I think I have found a couple.
First, you tout 30,000 jobs lost in the automotive manufacturing industry. I think you failed to take into account the industries that supply/support those indistries. The pundits are touting figures over 100,000.
Second, you state we are in the process of moving from a manufacturing economy to a service economy, Yes, manufacturing is almost all gone but, is banking a service industry, most of their back room operations have gone overseas. The support for your telco's have gone to call centres overseas. Two friends who worked for Telstra were made redundant a month or so ago as their positions were moved offshore. In my industry, an industry that services amongst other things maufacturing, increasing ammounts of the work is being moved offshore to Thailand, Mexico and Germany.
If by service industry, you mean shops supplying the worker with cafe latte's, With the increasing percentage of unemployed and due to the downward pressure on wages, the increasing percentage of working poor, you'll find less and less people (who are trying to contend with spiralling upward energy, telephone and council charges) will be unable to afford a five dollar latte and even those cafe's will gradually go out of business.
I fear we are in for some rocky times ahead.

I wonder if Germany, Japan or America will accept me as a reugee?

Mr Mick, I have studied your post and come away wondering what a reugee is?

Is that street talk for a person who has an OCD like fascination with recycling? If that's the case then you could be all the rage in Germany, Japan or America.

But seriously, you are correct and my 30,000 figure was Holden only in SA. So yes 100,000 jobs which is more than a little horrifying.

I've yet to receive good service from a bank or telco, but I'd still look towards the finance sector, health, aged care, education, housing/real estate as where the growth will be/needs to be in service industries.

There could be some tough times ahead but I suspect the average Aussie will jump through quite a few hoops for their morning latte (I prefer cappuccino) so the local cafe should survive provided they don't burn the milk.

**Mick_Marsh** · 25th November 2013, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by steane

Mr Mick, I have studied your post and come away wondering what a reugee is?

Is that street talk for a person who has an OCD like fascination with recycling? If that's the case then you could be all the rage in Germany, Japan or America.

Excellent! Browsing ebay for old Indonesian fishing boats now.

**Gerokent** · 25th November 2013, 12:50 PM

One thing that gets on my goat is when the "boat people" are released into the community they seem to congregate into a comunity of their own (which is no supprise), why can't the government "allocate" them to places that need workers/population so that community as a whole can benifit from the government handouts that are splashed around.

**Mick_Marsh** · 25th November 2013, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Gerokent

One thing that gets on my goat is when the "boat people" are released into the community they seem to congregate into a comunity of their own (which is no supprise), why can't the government "allocate" them to places that need workers/population so that community as a whole can benifit from the government handouts that are splashed around.

I believe they are trying to do that. A lot of "new Australians" are settling in regional Victoria.

**Gerokent** · 25th November 2013, 01:44 PM

A sensible government, what a rare and wonderful thing

**steane** · 25th November 2013, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Excellent! Browsing ebay for old Indonesian fishing boats now.

Should be a few around by all reports.

Do you plan to sail to Mexico and pay an old guy with long hair, a cigar and an M16 to spirit you across the border, make your way up to California and work for $2 an hour picking cabbages all the while answering only to the name Pedro Marsh?

The American dream.

**Lotz-A-Landies** · 25th November 2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by SteveFarmer

What a bizarre statement, unless you are an Aboriginal we are all migrants !

And are you suggesting that Australia doesn't owe anything of it's current prosperity to immigrants like Frank Lowy?

Steve

There is evidence of skeletally different races of humans before modern Australian Abroiginals (see [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mungo_remains"]Lake Mungo remains - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] in particular "Mitochondrial DNA and origins"). So depending upon your timeframe even the current "First Australians" are immigrants.

**Gerokent** · 25th November 2013, 03:36 PM

And the Bradshaw cave paintings, the aboriginals don't know whow made them. They are a lot older than the "modern" cave paintings.

**Chucaro** · 25th November 2013, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Gerokent

And the Bradshaw cave paintings, the aboriginals don't know whow made them. They are a lot older than the "modern" cave paintings.

The very first boat people made them

**Lotz-A-Landies** · 25th November 2013, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chucaro

Originally Posted by Gerokent

And the Bradshaw cave paintings, the aboriginals don't know whow made them. They are a lot older than the "modern" cave paintings.

The very first boat people made them

They may have walked here, no boats at all, because of the lower ocean levels caused by the ice age of the era.

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