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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    My father had what started as bowel cancer, that spread to his liver and brain, and killed him 11 days after being diagnosed. Did alcohol kill him? Who knows. He was a huge drinker, and smoker, and pretty overweight for most of his last 20 years. You could have chosen any one of twenty factors that could have caused it.
    My grandfather also had bowel cancer, that spread to the liver. He hung on for months though. His drinking consisted of a sherry before dinner. Not really hardcore.

    My aunt was, up until her retirement last year, the UK's most senior oncology nurse consultant (or something like that!), her job was born from her seeing so many family members being hit by it. She nags me every time she sees me about being checked.
    Yes, have a colonoscopy, it can save your life. I'm back to one colonoscopy every three years now.Unpleasant experience, particularly drinking the preparation on the day before but it has to be done if you are high risk!!!
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    Does any one here draw the conclusion that the huge spike in cancers here from the 50's on is connected with the Atomic bomb tests by the UK? It seems no coincidence the fallout drifted over the food producing areas of NSW & VIC. at the same time certain cancers took off. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausfree View Post
    .....Yes, have a colonoscopy, it can save your life. I'm back to one colonoscopy every three years now.Unpleasant experience, particularly drinking the preparation on the day before but it has to be done if you are high risk!!!
    Yes, my sister has been for 2 so far, and has outlined what happens. Atomic pooing Sounds like a barrel of laughs.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    Yes, my sister has been for 2 so far, and has outlined what happens. Atomic pooing Sounds like a barrel of laughs.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Does any one here draw the conclusion that the huge spike in cancers here from the 50's on is connected with the Atomic bomb tests by the UK? It seems no coincidence the fallout drifted over the food producing areas of NSW & VIC. at the same time certain cancers took off. Bob
    I think that's a bit of simplistic explanation. I think it's more like a number of factors together that has caused it......increased pollution, reduced exercise activity, larger hole in the ozone layer, increased intake of processed food, where do you stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    I think that's a bit of simplistic explanation. I think it's more like a number of factors together that has caused it......increased pollution, reduced exercise activity, larger hole in the ozone layer, increased intake of processed food, where do you stop.

    Yeah, you are probably right on all counts, but I think there is nothing simplistic about radioactive fallout settling on food producing areas. I have some experience in the subject, being an instructor in NBCD defence for the RAN in another life. Doesn't make me an expert, of course. Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Yeah, you are probably right on all counts, but I think there is nothing simplistic about radioactive fallout settling on food producing areas. I have some experience in the subject, being an instructor in NBCD defence for the RAN in another life. Doesn't make me an expert, of course. Bob
    The same as happened when Chernobyl went bang back in the 80s Bob. Large swathes of Northern Europe where dusted with the fallout from that one. And have we seen massive increases in cancers in those areas? No. There is a spike in the area around Chernobyl, but not much further afield.

    I would imagine the same would be said of those exposed directly to the tests, like has been seen around Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    The same as happened when Chernobyl went bang back in the 80s Bob. Large swathes of Northern Europe where dusted with the fallout from that one. And have we seen massive increases in cancers in those areas? No. There is a spike in the area around Chernobyl, but not much further afield.

    I would imagine the same would be said of those exposed directly to the tests, like has been seen around Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

    Actually the incidence of certain cancers certainly increased after the tests, especially the blood cancers. Some time after, almost a generation. Any way, a bit of info. Bob [ this doesn't really talk about civilian health problems.]
    The United Kingdom's Nuclear Testing Programme: CTBTO Preparatory Commission
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    These are the nasty characters we play with when we dabble in nuclear testing [ just imagine the horror if we actually used them in anger, again]Bob [ makes beer look tame]
    The times are the half lives of the beasties

    CHART 1 – EFFECTS OF RADIONUCLIDES

    Radionuclide

    Half-life*

    Health hazards

    Xenon
    (Xe)6.7 hours
    Inhalation in excessive concentrations can result in dizziness, nausea, vomiting, loss of consciousness, and death. At low oxygen concentrations, unconsciousness and death may occur in seconds without warning.


    Americium-241
    (241
    Am)432 years
    Moves rapidly through the body after ingestion and is concentrated within the bones for a long period of time. During this storage americium will slowly decay and release radioactive particles and rays. These rays can cause alteration of genetic materials and bone cancer.


    Iodine-131
    (131
    I)8 days
    When present in high levels in the environment from radioactive fallout, I-131 can be absorbed through contaminated food. It also accumulates in the thyroid gland, where it can destroy all or part of the thyroid. May cause damage to the thyroid as it decays. Thyroid cancer may occur.


    Caesium-137
    (137
    Cs)30 years
    After entering the body, caesium is distributed fairly uniformly through the body, with higher concentration in muscle tissue and lower concentration in bones. Can cause gonadal irradiation and genetic damage.


    Krypton-85
    (85
    Kr)10.76 year
    Inhalation in excessive concentrations can result in dizziness, nausea, vomiting, loss of consciousness, and death.


    Strontium-90
    (90
    Sr)28 year
    A small amount of strontium 90 is deposited in bones and bone marrow, blood and soft tissues when ingested. Can cause bone cancer, cancer of nearby tissues, and leukaemia.


    Plutonium-239
    (239
    Pu)24,400 years
    Released when a plutonium weapon is exploded. Ingestion of even a miniscule quantity is a serious health hazard and can cause lung, bone, and liver cancer. The highest doses are to the lungs, the bone marrow, bone surfaces, and liver.


    Tritium
    (3
    H)12 year
    Easily ingested. Can be inhaled as a gas in the air or absorbed through the skin. Enters soft tissues and organs. Exposure to tritium increases the risk of developing cancer. Beta radiation emitted by tritium can cause lung cancer.


    * ( i.e. amount of time it takes for half of the quantity of a radioactive material to decay)



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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Wonder what this did for global warming. And they knew the dangers, Bob


    Testing Times: CTBTO Preparatory Commission
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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