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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil HH View Post

    The same applies to the stuffup with the electrical power supplies. A proper design would have made provision for a safe (and foolproof)changeover from emergency to main supply. Even a domestic house with an emergency power supply as well as a mains supply must have an interlock that prevents the two supplies being connected in parallel.

    A good design would preclude operator error.


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    I tend to agree, all new ship designs have gremlins, but that seems a major fault. Not knowing the design set up stops me from criticising , but the potential for a major fire ...... scary. Bob
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    One thing for sure, when the 2 LHD's are operational, this mob will be ready to go, Bob


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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    One thing for sure, when the 2 LHD's are operational, this mob will be ready to go, Bob
    Much rather have the floor remain steady when you're doing that stuff.

    The patient looks rather well to me, does he have a tag saying patient just like Megan has?

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    I find it odd that these ships were/are built in Spain!
    Doesn't Australia have the capability to do this kind of work anymore?
    Not good, some polly must be getting pretty heafty kickbacks

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    It went to Tender, they won, an existing design with mods.

    Our capability, based on current efforts , no !
    We need a rolling 20 year plan, to get some long term competencies in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerokent View Post
    I find it odd that these ships were/are built in Spain!
    Doesn't Australia have the capability to do this kind of work anymore?
    Not good, some polly must be getting pretty heafty kickbacks
    Put simply no. We retain some capacity but are generally too expensive, too slow and always over budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Put simply no. We retain some capacity but are generally too expensive, too slow and always over budget.

    Unfortunately, true. I think the only ship construction on time & budget was the Patrol boats built at N.Q.E.A., Cairns. I served on a Daring Class Destroyer Vampire. You could not complain about the build quality, our Darings were a step above the Brit built ones, IMO. Bob

    Vampire was built at Cockatoo Dockyard, Sydney

    The Royal Australian Navy initially ordered four Daring-class destroyers, which were to be named after the ships of the "Scrap Iron Flotilla of World War II. The ships were modified during construction: most changes were made to improve habitability, including the installation of air-conditioning.[4] The Darings were also the first all-welded ships to be constructed in Australia.[5]
    The first Australian Daring was laid down in 1949.[5] By 1950, it was already apparent that the Australian Darings would not be completed on time, as the Australian dockyards were experiencing difficulty in keeping up with the construction schedule.[4] To compensate for this, the RAN unsuccessfully attempted to purchase two of the Darings under construction in the United Kingdom, and considered acquiring ships from the United States Navy despite the logistical difficulties in supplying and maintaining American vessels in a predominately British-designed fleet.[4] Only three ships were completed; Voyager, Vendetta, and Vampire were commissioned between 1957 and 1959.[5] By the time they were commissioned, the cost of each ship had increased from Australian pound 2.6 million to A£7 million
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    I was fortunate to visit the Vampire in March at the maritime museum, would recommend it to everyone.

    Bob, were you on it when the bridge had a. Soft top ? What was the idea behind that, to spot the ZEros?
    I think the only vessel built on time on budget was a whaler in 1789
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    I have heard a rumour of a stock of brand new SMLE .303 rifles being found in an ordnance depot which will be issued to units and thus save millions of dollars. General service wagons and tan boots were also found in quantity and will save even more millions. So no complaints from the brown jobs about not getting any new goodies.
    At least the 303 might stop the bugger with one shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    I was fortunate to visit the Vampire in March at the maritime museum, would recommend it to everyone.

    Bob, were you on it when the bridge had a. Soft top ? What was the idea behind that, to spot the ZEros?
    I think the only vessel built on time on budget was a whaler in 1789

    The old Vamps went to Williamstown, they took B turret off, prior to the major refit, she still had the torpedo tubes, we did the last 21 inch torpedo firing in the RAN off Singapore, against HMS London. London did a gunnery shoot against Vampire , I think they call it off shoot? or something. They off set the system a few degrees so they are not actually firing at you [ obviously practise rounds] . The gunnery from London was spot on. A mate & I were off watch [ B Boiler] and were perched up in the spud locker behind the aft funnel.


    Old Vamps. shook & shuddered, I swear I've never seen her go so fast. If I were a romantic, I would have said she knew it was the last hurrah, before being reborn. But I'm not, so I wont . The London sent a signal, after the torpedo was released. " Congratulations , Vampire, your torpedo passed under our bow. " I think you may be correct, having an open bridge meant you could see aircraft approaching. One RAN skipper, in the Med. [ navy talk] may have been Waller, [ hard over Hec] it is said used to lay down on the bridge deck, and con his ship during air raids like that. However, stokers used to say it was the only way to keep dozy seamen awake. Bob


    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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