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    HMAS Canberra damaged in sea trials

    First I've heard of this, Bob



    • by: By Ian McPhedran national defence writer
    • From: News Corp Australia
    • June 04, 2014 11:30PM






    Damaged ... the largest ship ever built for the Royal Australian Navy, Landing Helicopter Dock Canberra, passes through Sydney Heads for the first time. Source: Supplied



    A CIVILIAN contract crew made two serious errors during sea trials for the navy’s biggest ever ship, damaging its hull and melting down electrical systems.

    The first of two $1.5 billion 27,000-tonne Landing Helicopter Docks (LHDs), to be known as HMAS Canberra, suffered excessive vibration in May during her first “shakedown cruise” between Melbourne and Sydney.
    The fault was traced to the brand-new vessel’s two German-built Siemens propulsion pods — or azimuth thrusters — which were out of alignment.
    Each thruster, fitted at the stern of the ship, has two propellers mounted on large electric powered pods that can be rotated to any angle, eliminating the need for a rudder. And just like the wheels of a car, poor pod alignment causes vibration.
    A crew from Teekay Shipping Corporation was hired by prime contractor BAE Systems and was apparently unaware that the pods must be operated in tandem above eight knots.
    They ran them independently in low-speed mode at high speed, causing serious vibration throughout the ship.



    Serious errors ... workers at BAE Systems, Williamstown Dockyards fitting out the first of the Navy's Amphibious Assault Ships, HMAS Canberra. Source: News Limited




    “Once the pods were back in the correct mode the vibration ceased,” a project source said.
    “It was an operator error and the return journey was much smoother.”
    The vibration was generated by cavitation and the bounce produced at the stern rolled across the ship with decks trembling and panels vibrating.
    “It was like the shaking floor in an amusement park house of fun,” a source said.
    Damage was minimal, but vibration caused paint to be stripped from the ship’s hull directly above the pods.



    Trial goes wrong ... on the largest ship ever built for the Royal Australian Navy, Landing Helicopter Dock Canberra. Source: Supplied




    The crew’s woes continued when Canberra returned to Port Phillip Bay and was forced to drop anchor for four hours after losing steerage following an electrical power failure.
    Unfortunately the operators forgot to disconnect the emergency power and when the main power kicked back in the circuit breakers melted.
    “There were no major design errors during the trials and both issues were operator errors,” the source said.
    “The trial didn’t go as well as hoped, but it was better than expected.”
    In addition to the serious errors, excessive corrosion was detected in propeller nuts and a small crack was discovered in the hull of the ship that was caused during its long journey on a barge from the builder in Spain.



    The largest ship ... ever built for the Royal Australian Navy, Landing Helicopter Dock Canberra, entered Sydney Harbour for the first time during the contractor sea trials and testing program. Source: Supplied




    The Canberra will be back at sea in July for the next round of trials before she is handed to the Navy later this year.
    News of the botched sea trials comes as the government announced it would insert an “experienced shipbuilding management team” into taxpayer-owned shipbuilder ASC in Adelaide to fix the troubled $8.5 billion Air Warfare Destroyer program.
    Defence Minister David Johnston and Finance Minister Mathias Cormann said the team would target productivity and production schedules in a bid to get the controversial three-ship alliance project back on track.
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    which Bob?
    the ship or the stuff up?
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    so, the Air Force will be right for Fighters,
    The Navy will be able to fly off Helicopters(and be protected Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) | Royal Australian Navy)

    what does the Army get?
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    are these the type of thing under Canberra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    so, the Air Force will be right for Fighters,
    The Navy will be able to fly off Helicopters(and be protected Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) | Royal Australian Navy)

    what does the Army get?

    Mud, dust, & hurry up & wait, as usual, Bob
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    actually the army operates 12 or so of its new helicopters off the each of the LHD's so between 24-30 will be committed to the LHD's so the navy doesn't have its entire structure based around the LHD's like it use to with the Melbourne due to the cost of running them and the helicopters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    are these the type of thing under Canberra?

    I believe so Pedro. I don't know whether it is just me, but I would worry about radical course changes at speed, which naval ships are wont to do, those pods would have to have the very best bearing set up, a lot of weight down there. But, I'm sure they know what their doing. One thing for sure, they wont be able to mask the turn count on that ship. Bob
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    They get Air conditioning, power steering, an automatic transmission, fording mode and lots of rest time as they wait for the technicians to get the bloody thing running again!
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    To me both of these problems WERE caused by design errors. The very fact that the propulsion pods COULD operate independently at greater than 8 knots is a flaw. Even on a (relatively) cheap Jap car with 4 wheel steering, the 4WS is designed to cancel itself at greater than parking speeds.

    The same applies to the stuffup with the electrical power supplies. A proper design would have made provision for a safe (and foolproof) changeover from emergency to main supply. Even a domestic house with an emergency power supply as well as a mains supply must have an interlock that prevents the two supplies being connected in parallel.

    A good design would preclude operator error.


    Another case of fundamental orifice covering an a grand scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    so, the Air Force will be right for Fighters,
    The Navy will be able to fly off Helicopters(and be protected Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) | Royal Australian Navy)

    what does the Army get?
    I have heard a rumour of a stock of brand new SMLE .303 rifles being found in an ordnance depot which will be issued to units and thus save millions of dollars. General service wagons and tan boots were also found in quantity and will save even more millions. So no complaints from the brown jobs about not getting any new goodies.
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