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    Windimurra mine had a big fire earlier this year and isn't in production at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithy P38 View Post
    Xstrata/Glencore might have screwed over your bit of the country, but they've kept a roof over millions of heads for over 10yrs in QLD.

    I agree - they are politicians crossed with accountants, and they will step on toes if they have to in order to get what they want.

    Yes....and BHP Billiton & RIO Tinto are much better corporate citizens to be mining our wealth (with little local human toil/jobs thanks to increasing autonomous fleets).

    Lots of these big boys have (and will continue) destroyed communities by opening/closing operations at the stroke of an accountants quill.

    ...Ravensthorpe CSR, ...Wittenoom... And then there's the union invoked response from BMA, etc ODO expansion/no expansion...

    But X-Strata do have a bad smell about them, more so than the others....maybe Gina will be different?
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    We, as one of the world's sunniest countries, are a long way behind Germany, not a country known for sunshine.

    Germany Reached Nearly 75% Renewable Power Use On Sunday | CleanTechnica

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    We, as one of the world's sunniest countries, are a long way behind Germany, not a country known for sunshine.

    Germany Reached Nearly 75% Renewable Power Use On Sunday | CleanTechnica

    You are certainly full of ideals

    Sunniest Places and Countries in the World - Current Results

    Pretty sure distribution of electricity from tenant creek may be an issue, pesky Voltage drop can be a bugger

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    Sun also shines on the coast, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Sun also shines on the coast, you know.
    Its not sustainable for base load generation, people need to get over this, you need spinning masses of copper for grid stability, its also only useful at when the sun shine, you have other issues with cloud edge effect, overcast days, blah blah...

    Like I said, ideals

    Oh and Germany's interconnector to France which is predominately Nuclear? Shhhh

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    Solar farms are and excellent option and work well in many countries.
    The Arnedo Solar plant in Spain produces an impressive 34 GWh every year, which will power 12,000 households and prevent 375,000 tonnes of CO2. The facility sits on seventy hectares and houses 172,000 panels.
    In Germany, the Waldpolenz Solar Park is the world’s largest thin-film photovoltaic (PV) power system.
    Moura in Portugal, produces 46 MWp, counting a total of over 376,000 solar panels and the future expansion will produce 88 GWh of electrical energy per year.
    Puerto Llano in Spain is another which generate energy for 39,000 households.
    We can go on and on, the problem is that we have coal and prefer the "easy" way and not care for the environment.
    People find excuses that have been proved wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    Solar farms are and excellent option and work well in many countries.
    The Arnedo Solar plant in Spain produces an impressive 34 GWh every year, which will power 12,000 households and prevent 375,000 tonnes of CO2. The facility sits on seventy hectares and houses 172,000 panels.
    In Germany, the Waldpolenz Solar Park is the world’s largest thin-film photovoltaic (PV) power system.
    Moura in Portugal, produces 46 MWp, counting a total of over 376,000 solar panels and the future expansion will produce 88 GWh of electrical energy per year.
    Puerto Llano in Spain is another which generate energy for 39,000 households.
    We can go on and on, the problem is that we have coal and prefer the "easy" way and not care for the environment.
    People find excuses that have been proved wrong.
    Which as a ratio to what is available on their network to base load generators is small, its simple math, plus they don't need to distribute anywhere near the distance we do in Australia

    Its ain't excuses, it is reality, sorry, ideals(dreams) don't cut it

    Yea, it is great for supplementary energy use, but it still cannot do the job of base load generation

    It can supplement, that is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Which as a ratio to what is available on their network to base load generators is small, its simple math, plus they don't need to distribute anywhere near the distance we do in Australia

    Its ain't excuses, it is reality, sorry, ideals(dreams) don't cut it

    Yea, it is great for supplementary energy use, but it still cannot do the job of base load generation

    It can supplement, that is all
    H – Flexible power production (no more baseload) – German Energy Transition

    A properly distributed and planned energy network can minimise the need for "traditional" baseload power.

    In AU both Governments, power authorities and the coal industry like to perpetuate the baseload argument, because to do otherwise would mean we need to upgrade transmission lines, improve planning and set up properly connected networks between regions.

    e.g. there are very few days where it is not sunny or windy on one of the coasts. A DC transmission link from the east coast network to Darwin and Alice springs and another to the Perth SWIS would be a start.

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