Thread: Nissan Motorsport Jack Daniels Racing,Sooks Or Fair Enough?

I believe the engine there using in the Volvo had to be detuned to use in V8 Super car.

Originally Posted by disco man

I could be wrong but i think the Volvo started at 4.4L? do you think this is why the bore and stroke ratio given to Volvo is different?

Yep they were 4.4 and upsized. not sure about the detuning but pretty sure the std volvo never had 650 hp. i read a spec from 2012 that said the stroke had to be between 70 something to 70 something (cant find it again) so it makes me wonder if the rules have been changed this year to accommodate the volvo engine?????

The difference between the Nissan & the Volvo, and it's a BIG difference, is that the Volvo is much more of a true "Factory" entry than the Nissan which actually has very little input from Nissan, whereas the great majority of the engine work on the Volvo was done by the factory.
Obviously the Nissan is down on power, but I suggest that if the Nissan factory provided as much support as the Volvo factory has, the issue would be fixed.
Pickles.

Not sure how true it is,but i have heard whispers that Toyota and Chrysler might be entering the series in the near future.The V8 used by Toyota is a quad cam and the Chrysler is a Hemi so how would the rules affect these teams if they were to enter?

Originally Posted by disco man

Not sure how true it is,but i have heard whispers that Toyota and Chrysler might be entering the series in the near future.The V8 used by Toyota is a quad cam and the Chrysler is a Hemi so how would the rules affect these teams if they were to enter?

Would be just the same as now, their engines have to be 5L & meet "parity" rules, just as Erebus, Nissan & Volvo do now.
Erebus have their problems at the moment too,...the amount of dollars that Betty's put in would give her nightmares I reckon, & they've still got a way to go,.....if they stay in?
Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Erebus have their problems at the moment too,...the amount of dollars that Betty's put in would give her nightmares I reckon, & they've still got a way to go,.....if they stay in?
Pickles.

I'd hate to think how much it cost to 'just' sponsor a V8 Supercar.
Operating costs of approx $7M per season according to this

Imagine what the costs to companies such as jack daniels, jim,beam, redbull, coates hire etc... they'd have to be chipping in a good portion of that as major sponsors.

Why do all the good things in lilfe need to be so expensive

The Kelly boys can bleat all they like, they entered the ****in knowing the requirements. This is to ensure all cars have a chance of competing unlike the older format that had different classes with some cars never going to be competitive. This is really no different to Nascar that run several makes with similar specs.
There has also been reference to rules being altered to suit Red Bull, well that is interpretation and currently nothing in the rules specifies the controller cannot move the tyre, it does state he cannot touch the car or give it any performance increase by doing so. Ford fans obviously have the memories of Goldfish as Red Bull were penalized rather recently when the car controller removed some race tape technically improving the performance. Ford fans also forget the many transgressions FPR and DJR have made and utilizing rules that gave them an unfair advantage eg DJR running a substantially lighter Falcon than production giving them a 300kg advantage over the Commodores, other Falcons running the correct weight and other cars. They however did not breach the rules.

Originally Posted by CraigE

The Kelly boys can bleat all they like, they entered the ****in knowing the requirements. .

here is the specs from the v8 supercar website in relation to the engine and the rules states that the stroke must be between 75.18mm & 77.22mm

[ame]http://v8media.v8superview.com/documents/OpsManual/2014_Div_G_DVS_Update1.pdf[/ame]

and here is a link to the volvo engine and it states the stroke as 87.1??????
http://www.polestar.com/en-int/2014/...ing-v8-engine/