Bull bar blitz: rural drivers fined

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Originally Posted by nugge t

Just an interesting aside because if the theory of pedestrian protection during impact is the driving force then why would there be exemptions? I am not talking about vintage trucks but current Govt fleet such as I saw this morning when some Army trucks went by in a metropolitan area.


The bullbars were forward leaning which is the first no no of the ADR requirement.

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Yep. And there you have it.
The Perenties are complianced for two seats. I have seen 6x6 Perentie cargo variants driving around packed with a cargo of live soldiers and not a seat belt between them. Lots of rules don't apply to emergency services or government organisations.

It's the army, I'm sure it's a whole different set of rules.... But in any case if the army is in such a hurry to get somewhere that they knock over a couple of pedestrians, we probably have bigger problems to address than pedestrian safety (think war?)

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Originally Posted by Meken

It's the army, I'm sure it's a whole different set of rules.... But in any case if the army is in such a hurry to get somewhere that they knock over a couple of pedestrians, we probably have bigger problems to address than pedestrian safety (think war?)

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I think it maybe as well but I was wondering if anyone actually knew?


There are also rail maintenance vehicles I often see in our industrial area with big drop down steel rail track wheels which you would wonder about as well. Love to see how they go over a set of scales for GVM!

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Originally Posted by nugge t

I think it maybe as well but I was wondering if anyone actually knew?


There are also rail maintenance vehicles I often see in our industrial area with big drop down steel rail track wheels which you would wonder about as well. Love to see how they go over a set of scales for GVM!

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I'd love to see how they go over a Commodore ................. :p :wasntme:

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Originally Posted by BMKal

Personally, I don't have any problem at all with them throwing anything with this type of rubbish bolted to it off the road. This is just the sort of thing that gives the likes of Scruby and his mates the ammunition they need to have all bullbars banned. :censored:

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Rubbish ! People like Scruby need no excuse, they will always try to ban anything they don't like whether reasonable or not.

He's against bull bars full stop. This would only ENCOURAGE him !

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I'm sure there would be exemptions. In the same way emergency services personnel are exempted for mobile phone use whilst driving.
Where they would apply, I have no idea, but if a non approved bull bar is required on a modern vehicle, I'm sure it will be exempted.

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This talk of approved bull bars and whatnot, as I'm in the market for one.....I rang the Technical section of the RMS here in N.S.W yesterday to find out the goods on bullbars. I was told that any off road passenger built after 2003 if fitting a bulbar it MUST be ADR certified, but I think the year is actually 2000. The bar MUST have either the integrallabel or plate fitted stating the fact it is compliant.

So there goes any home made/boutique or overseas bars if you want to be 'legal'.

I think, my opinion only don't blast me, is that builders of bars who DO NOT fit the required ADR labelling/certify their bars as being compliant should be stating this fact on their websites and such so as buyers are not purchasing something that they think is 'legal'.

There are people who rightly or wrongly think if something is being freely sold on the open market that its ok to use.

To my mind it's not just the being 'legal' thing but what if the unfortunate happens and you have a frontal collision with another vehicle or a pedestrian, and you are at fault. The accident is investigated and your insurance company voids your insurance as the fitted bar was not ADR compliant. This is only valid if your vehicle requires a compliant bar obviously.

Mick

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Originally Posted by nugge t

Not sure if this has been covered but do the ADR rules apply to ALL vehicles including Government and Special Purpose vehicles or are ther exemptions?

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I guess they can be exempt.

Not specifically bull bars but something similar.

We have bike racks on out Government Buses - get hit by one of these then a bit like getting hit by a 5 post bull bar - but then getting hit by any bus could ruin your day.

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Originally Posted by nugge t

I think it maybe as well but I was wondering if anyone actually knew?


There are also rail maintenance vehicles I often see in our industrial area with big drop down steel rail track wheels which you would wonder about as well. Love to see how they go over a set of scales for GVM!

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I have a friend with an ex railways 130 that was fitted with HiRail wheels.
It is secondary plated as 4500 Kg GVM.

Tony

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Originally Posted by BMKal

I'd love to see how they go over a Commodore ................. :p :wasntme:

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You ever seen a haul truck drive over a Toyota?

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How does it go? OH WHAT A FEELING :wasntme: