Thread: Bull bar blitz: rural drivers fined

Originally Posted by AndyG

It's a long walk to the marked pedestrian crossing on the nullabour.

That why there was the stupid proposal a while back to ban vehicles with outback bull bars form towns and cities - they really did not think that one through.

What were we supposed to do - take the bar off to drive into any decent sized town.

However having said that - all new ARB, OL, ECB and some others comply with the new pedestrian rules and also seem to work Ok handling the wildlife so if Bull Bar designers have a think about it, they can come up with bars that meet all requirements.

Garry

Originally Posted by AndyG

It's a long walk to the marked pedestrian crossing on the nullabour.

How many pedestrians have you seen on the Nullarbor? I've seen more pedestrians on train lines. Maybe FeatherWeightDriver has the right idea. Trans need airbags to push the pedestrians over them.

Originally Posted by sheerluck

That's a somewhat unforgiving attitude you have there Pat. No-one is making drivers responsible for pedestrians being on the road, just that they are attempting to maximise their chance of survival if they do get hit.

Chalking such accidents up to "natural selection" seems a bit harsh too. What about the child that pulls away from it's mother's hand at the wrong moment? What about the old guy suffering from dementia and wanders into the road? Feel free to tell them that it's just natural selection. Just so long as they don't dent your car.

I don't know what it is like in other cities but, in Melbourne, we have a pedestrian problem. There are many people who walk around with wires in their ears and stare at their hand totally oblivious to their surroundings. I have personally seen a fellow walk into a 10ft diameter pole, a young woman walk straight in front of a tram that was going quite fast (I was on the tram and was injured when the driver braked heavily), a woman walk in front of a car in Elizabeth Street and get skittled and a fellow brushing past a policeman to cross at the lights whilst the don't walk symbol was flashing. On the last one, the policeman stopped the pedestrian and got out the notebook to take down the pedestrian's particulars. Not all of these examples had "i" devices.
The thing is, pedestrians just don't care. They just don't think. It's always someone else's responsibility.
Interestingly, there is an average of two or three accidents a day involving pedestrians on Elizabeth Street in the CBD. I read that in MX a few years ago.

Originally Posted by bee utey

It appears that (in SA and NSW at least) AS4876.1-2002 will only be enforced for vehicles manufactured after 1 July 2013, so no need to panic yet, Muppet.

The Australian 4WD Industry Council

Seems the council has a 'vested' interest in this topic

The 2014/16 4WD Council Committee comprises:

Chairman:

Ray Smith -Roberts (of) East Coast Bullbars (QLD)

Originally Posted by sheerluck

That's a somewhat unforgiving attitude you have there Pat. No-one is making drivers responsible for pedestrians being on the road, just that they are attempting to maximise their chance of survival if they do get hit.

Chalking such accidents up to "natural selection" seems a bit harsh too. What about the child that pulls away from it's mother's hand at the wrong moment? What about the old guy suffering from dementia and wanders into the road? Feel free to tell them that it's just natural selection. Just so long as they don't dent your car.

It's all about personal responsibility,we have pedestrian crossings for a reason,in the news this week train drivers are complaining about people crossing in front of them,the video's of people running in front of trains beggers belief. Pat

Originally Posted by olbod

Fair enough.
I also drive at night and I only have a 20 inch led bar on the front and I drive to the conditions. No problem at all.
I did change my headlight bulbs to H4 globes tho.

Try lights on the roof olbod,you'd be supprised how good they light up the road.I have two shining straight ahead and the two outside ones at 45,you see the roo's before they get to the road. Pat

Originally Posted by AndyG

It's a long walk to the marked pedestrian crossing on the nullabour.

It's the Japanese on push bikes you have to worry about,what in gods name makes them think the Nulaboring is a good bike ride?. Pat

Common sense certainly does seem in short supply nowadays.

Up here , esp in rural areas they are all over the road like brown cows. It does not help that these extra large head sets are all the rage. I should add the roadside vegetation overlaps the road so their is no footpath.

And of course sleeping on the road after a skinful is all the rage. Dark people, dark dirty clothes, no lighting, undulating roads , nighttime, someone gets cleaned up locally almost every pay day.