Are 4WDs too high-tech for the bush?

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Originally Posted by TerryO

I'll see your slightly damp bonnet and raise you.

The main difference between the two vehicles is the door seals in the D3 are rated by Land Rover to keep water out even at this depth where as the 110 would have been leaking like a sieve.
No big deal if you prefer a cold wet arse then that is your choice, personally I would rather be the bloke in the D3 sitting in a nice dry cabin listening to surround sound music on the Harmon Kardon stereo while ordering Thai home delivery on the blue tooth phone connection.

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I thought Inside's pic was scary.

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

It would be interesting to see a graph with amount of factory vehicles recalls before and after the year 1996.
Just for a comparison. That will give a fair idea of problems in cars with and without sophisticated electronics even if some models of European cars used to have some electronics back in the mid 1990's

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We had the whole fleet of Land Cruisers,Prado's,Hilux's recalled from Xstrada coal because of faulty welding,about 200 vehicles,that was early '90's,electrics weren't the issue. Pat

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Originally Posted by PAT303

We had the whole fleet of Land Cruisers,Prado's,Hilux's recalled from Xstrada coal because of faulty welding,about 200 vehicles,that was early '90's,electrics weren't the issue. Pat

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A yearly list of recalled Toyota vehicles is HERE

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Originally Posted by PAT303

And we have a winner.If you haven't seen it watch the top gear special on the L405 RR,James May drives it into a lake they test military vehicles in,it was winter and the bonnet was completely submerged,no RAI fitted and ice built up against the windscreen,straight through on road tyres. Pat

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Haha you believe television too much. According to this site he went through at least 5 tires or was it 11 rims. Laughable that you use a Top Gear test to back up any sort of fact. I love the show but factual it isn't.
James May Destroyed 11 Wheels During Top Gear's Range Rover Test (UPDATE: NOT REALLY)

There is a school of thought that says that parts not fitted cost nothing, weigh nothing and can't break down.

On that basis, it gives me great comfort knowing that I can take my Defender off-road and be confident that i will not suffer the great inconvenience of having the cup holders break.

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Well, all I can get out of this conversation is I probably won't see a lot of you fellas out in the bush. I'll be there in my old D2. Don't park close to me, I go bush to get away from people. Cheers, Bob

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Originally Posted by bob10

Well, all I can get out of this conversation is I probably won't see a lot of you fellas out in the bush. I'll be there in my old D2. Don't park close to me, I go bush to get away from people. Cheers, Bob

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I am amused by the description of a Discovery 2 as an "old D2". :)

My Defender is a 1998 model and i think of it as a new vehicle.

Perhaps that is because it replaced a 33 year old Series III. I was prepared to accept that by 2006, my Series III was getting a bit old.
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Originally Posted by vnx205

I am amused by the description of a Discovery 2 as an "old D2". :)

My Defender is a 1998 model and i think of it as a new vehicle.

Perhaps that is because it replaced a 33 year old Series III. I was prepared to accept that by 2006, my Series III was getting a bit old.
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Ok, you got me, you crusty old Land Rover drivers can't be beat, Bob
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He beat me to it - neither of my Landrovers was built after the first Discovery was released, let alone the D2.

John

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

He beat me to it - neither of my Landrovers was built after the first Discovery was released, let alone the D2.

John

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So, the question must be asked, would you drive a D2 into remote areas? On your own. Bob