Thread: The Great Fuel Rip-Off.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Yes you really feel that 1.6 cents a litre of excise, NOT!

The increase in Excise was from 38.143 cents per litre to 38.6 cents per litre as shown on the ATO website.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Peak Oil? peak Oil?
Where have I heard that before?
Oh about 5 years ago before they started horizontal drilling in the States and technology found heaps more.
I was going to start a thread so you saved me doing it. But I wouldn't count on the price being cheap for more than a few years and OPEC is doing a BHP and flooding the market to knock out competitors.

However I was interested to read today a report by analysts that Woodside's break even is USD22 per barrel.

I still think Hydrogen is "about 20 years away" as it was 20 years ago.
My understanding 20 years ago was that purity is a big problem as BOC found with Perth bus fleet. Probably still is but nobody has got as far as a widespread distribution system. With oil as cheap and plentiful as it is now, you would have to be a bit of a masochist to spend much on Hydrogen research. Of course the byproduct is water , and no co2 so maybe the Europeans will spend money on it.

Hang on they haven't got any money because they have spent it all on wind farms and solar panels, and then like Germany building 5 coal fired power station to cover when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow.
Regards Philip A

GOLD!

Top answers Phil. I'd give you two thanks if it was possible.

who cares what the price of ulp is,,

In the great state of VIC the price of LPG is around 65cpl,,

read that and weep QLD

I drove up to Sydney and back today, a 640km round trip and noticed an enormous variation in prices.

E10 in most places here on the south coast seems to be around 140.9.

At the brand new service station in Bateman's Bay, E10 was 153.9. At Albion Park, it was 122.7.

31.2 cents a litre difference seems a lot. After all, the south coast of NSW is hardly the wrong side of the Black Stump.

E10 could be free.. Would never find its way into anything I own..

Originally Posted by Tombie

E10 could be free.. Would never find its way into anything I own..

Have to agree with your post.......price of E10 has dropped to 131.9cpl (less your 4c discount docket) around here. I use regular unleaded or PULP.

Originally Posted by Tombie

E10 could be free.. Would never find its way into anything I own..

You must own the wrong things then.

My SV21 Camry did about 300,000 km on E10 with no problems. Even my lawn mower has been fed a steady diet of E10 and continues to do everything expected of it.

I am aware of some of the issues that can occur with E10, but they have never happened to me.

Several years ago after hearing so many claims that premium unleaded gave better performance or economy than E10, I tried three consecutive tanks full of the stuff. I didn't notice any improvement in performance and the economy was exactly the same (to the second decimal place) as the figure that E10 had given me over the previous decade. It was a waste of money.

I'm not trying to convince anyone else to use it or to change anyone's mind about the potential problems. I'm simply recounting my experiences with E10.

Seems to depend do a lot on the car. Sophisticated cars react better to good fuel. My BMW would notice around 1.5-2 l/100 difference between 91 and 98. Didn't try E10 because of the bad stories I've heard with some boats