looks promising imho

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Originally Posted by mikehzz

My FL2 has done the Simpson Desert, lots of the Vic High Country (Billy Goats, Blue Rag...before it was graded, Basalt Knob, Davies Plain others I can't remember etc, Vesko's did Mt Pinnibar no dramas) and plenty in between. It handles exceptionally well on the road. I hate driving normal cars now, I don't care how sporty they are, they are too low and not zippy enough to make a difference. I dislike rock climbing and grow bored very quickly with it so big clearance and low range just make a car handle badly for no benefit in my book. I've had the FL2 out on club runs with Foresters, Rav4's, CRV's, XTrails etc and it absolutely makes them look so ordinary. From my experience, an FL2 is equivalent or better in ability than a Prado or Pajero that isn't heavily modified, and is definitely better than a Dmax (I found that out 2 weeks ago). We had 2 on a trip that were getting stuck everywhere while the FL2 had no issues. The FL2 has a lot of good points, it surprised me big time.

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It sounds like it has done some good things mate, How do you think low range and more clearance has no benefit? I can say with a fair degree of confidence that low range and more clearance is a huge benefit taking on the ruts on the creb track.

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It sounds like it has done some good things mate, How do you think low range and more clearance has no benefit? I can say with a fair degree of confidence that low range and more clearance is a huge benefit taking on the ruts on the creb track.

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Well they certainly benefit you crawling along difficult tracks, but if you don't really want to spend hours doing that then they are of no benefit and make the car handle worse. I have a locked Jeep as well because my wife got sick of me scratching and denting the FL2. I've done most of the tracks in both cars, but the FL2 is special because it isn't supposed to go in a lot of the places but does anyway. I prefer touring in the FL2 above all.

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Why a big call? Your 100km/h is the same as mine :)

I never said I could match it, but that I am not disappointed by what a D4 does..

For the record, I had a vehicle that would eat a GT-P or HSV offering :D so understand the differences... ;)

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Know where you're coming from Tombie. ;)

Occasionally for a bit of excitement I go for a run in the young bloke's RX7. Will also blow the doors off anything put out there by Ford or Holden, and will out-handle them any day of the week. Great fun when you're in it though, especially when you're on a windy road (there's not many of them around Kal ;)). Also a source of great amusement when the wannabe's in their souped up Falcadores pull up next to it at the lights and want to have a crack ................ love seeing them slinking off with tails between their legs when this thing makes them look stoopid. :angel:

Problem for me is getting in & out of the thing (and getting used to that feeling that your bum is scraping on the ground :eek:). I can manage to "fall" into it OK - but getting out again is a different story - resembles something like crawling out the side of it on your hands & knees and then standing up. :o

The Mazda is not the best of vehicles in the MacDonalds drive thru though .............. struggles to get over the speed bumps, and if you do manage to get alongside the service windows, the girls inside have to virtually hang upside down out the window to pass you your order. :o

Much easier to get in & out of something like a FL2 - and I can actually fit more than a six pack of beer in the back of the Freelander as well. :p

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Know where you're coming from Tombie. ;)

Occasionally for a bit of excitement I go for a run in the young bloke's RX7. Will also blow the doors off anything put out there by Ford or Holden, and will out-handle them any day of the week. Great fun when you're in it though, especially when you're on a windy road (there's not many of them around Kal ;)). Also a source of great amusement when the wannabe's in their souped up Falcadores pull up next to it at the lights and want to have a crack ................ love seeing them slinking off with tails between their legs when this thing makes them look stoopid. :angel:

Problem for me is getting in & out of the thing (and getting used to that feeling that your bum is scraping on the ground :eek:). I can magage to "fall" into it OK - but getting out again is a different story - resembles something like crawling out the side of it on your hands & knees and then standing up. :o

The Mazda is not the best of vehicles in the MacDonalds drive thru though .............. struggles to get over the speed bumps, and if you do manage to get alongside the service windows, the girls inside have to virtually hang upside down out the window to pass you your order. :o

Much easier to get in & out of something like a FL2 - and I can actually fit more than a six pack of beer in the back of the Freelander as well. :p

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So you haven't been in a warmed up turbo falcon then? Plenty around here pushing the 1000kw mark and still reliable rx7 meh please unless its got a 20b in it sprook your dribble else where . Anyhow back on topic

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So you haven't been in a warmed up turbo falcon then? Plenty around here pushing the 1000kw mark and still reliable rx7 meh please unless its got a 20b in it sprook your dribble else where . Anyhow back on topic

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You obviously know little about Mazdas. ;)

This thing would eat a turbo Falcon any day of the week - especially if you throw a few corners into the equation. But carry on dreaming. :p

Perhaps I should mention it's not a standard model RX7 that was available in Australia - it's a grey import that has "a little" more done to it.

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You obviously know little about Mazdas. ;)

This thing would eat a turbo Falcon any day of the week - especially if you throw a few corners into the equation. But carry on dreaming. :p

Perhaps I should mention it's not a standard model RX7 that was available in Australia - it's a grey import that has "a little" more done to it.

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I know every one stopped playing with them years ago. Why anyone would want an engine that uses more fuel then any v8 yet can't produce enough torque to pull its self out of the gutter is beyond me. And I don't think you realise how fast a 1000kw car actually is

I know how fast they go,in Perth rarely a week goes buy without the news showing one upside down after crashing through the front of some poor bastards house,they are a family saloon from the '60's made out of the cheapest parts possible and fitted with a crate engine because they get them cheap and the fact that larger brakes are a option pretty much speaks volumes on their quality of engineering.Go get your 1000kw ox cart and do 5 quick laps of your local race track and report back to us,thats if it's still going after 5 laps. Pat

Oh another expert I can see this is heading in to another aulro ****ing contest and all the usual competitors are here

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Oh another expert I can see this is heading in to another aulro ****ing contest and all the usual competitors are here

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Whatever you reckon mate. ;) Ever heard the words pot, kettle, black linked together in the same sentence.

Like I said before, dreamers in souped up Falcadores lining up at the lights have been a source of amusement on many occasions in the past.

Maybe the reason why people "stopped playing" with the Mazdas is that they stopped making the RX7 years ago and replaced it with a hairdresser's car. ;)

But if a souped up agricultural six in a boring old taxi body is your thing ............ no problem. To each his own as they say. Even the "V8 Supercars" series is about to finally get back to a bit of reality and get a bit of real competition back into the series. ;)

V8 Supercars overhaul to allow turbo fours, V6s and coupes from 2017

Like I said usual suspects dribbling the same bs day in day out