Thread: Ambulance Drone.

Originally Posted by CraigE

Yep and that is why everyone should learn CPR and continue until help arrives. .

it would be nice.

Originally Posted by CraigE

By keeping the blood circulating your are ensuring an oxygenated blood supply to the brain and give a defib every chance of helping realign the electrical pulses. CPR is the priority not the AED. If you leave a patient to get an AED the chances of resuscitation diminish quickly.

yes i know this. however there is nothing more effective at pumping blood than the heart.

all im saying is that it would be good if an AED was available to everyone within 60 seconds. a drone will help to allow this.

Originally Posted by PAT303

......................................Drones are just a solution to a problem that isn't there. Pat

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Deano

i was first at a motor bike accident a few years back, on Gorge road Adelaide

now over the years i have done quite a few first aid and CPR courses. always on a dummy and sometime pretend on a mate. apart from the number of blows to pumps its still the same. so peace of cake really.

well that's what i thought until the real deal happened, its bloody hard work. ambo took over 30 minits. if anyone claims they can do CPR for longer than 5 mints i will call you a liar.

and if you think anyone will help, your joking the average aussie is more interested in Gorking or taking photos than helping. with one guys screaming at me, DONT touch him you may hirt his back. The bloke was blue, doubt he was thinking about his back

defif tuning up in 10 minits would have been great

Originally Posted by Eevo

generally ambulances dont arrived in 3 minutes.

there is never an AED around when you need one

but aust will never accept drones as we refer to live in the stone age.

So where are you going to put the drone so it can be on site anywhere in the city within 3mins?,where are the controllers going to be?,how will it handle the high winds that funnel between buildings?,can it handle cross winds between the buildings and updrafts?,can it fly around sign posts,umbrellas,HV power lines etc without going out of control hitting people and causing more issue's?.The woman in the video should have opened the airway and started effective compressions instead of wasting valuable time calling a drone like she's on a TV medical show,going by that video the man has not had circulation for at least 4-5mins which means he's a 20% chance at best,people who deal with this situation for a living don't need stupid gimmics and we aren't in the stone age. Pat

Originally Posted by CraigE

Ian,
You cannot defib a normal heart rhythm with AEDs and most Defibs set on auto analyse as they will only shock a recognizable irregular rhythm same as they will not shock a flat line (asystole). The only way this can be inadvertently done is by a programmable Defib and has to be deliberately done by someone with knowledge. AEDs just cannot do this at all.
The biggest mistake people make is thinking you are starting the heart with an AED or Defib. You are actually stopping the heart to allow the electrical pulses to reset and restart. Sometimes possible sometimes not depending on damage that has occurred.
Defib on a healthy rhythm will actually stop the heart and it is possible and even likely it will not start again.

Well put Craig,it's supprising how many people think a defib starts the heart,your electrocuting it. Pat

Originally Posted by Eevo

it would be nice.


yes i know this. however there is nothing more effective at pumping blood than the heart.

all im saying is that it would be good if an AED was available to everyone within 60 seconds. a drone will help to allow this.

Sorry but your wrong and Craig is right,the reason resus is only 17% effective is because people waste time,in your world calling a drone instead of doing effective CPR.Your idea of calling a drone that lands next to you and delivers a defib within 60 secs is laughable,this is not a Country Pratctise. Pat

Originally Posted by 85 county

i was first at a motor bike accident a few years back, on Gorge road Adelaide

now over the years i have done quite a few first aid and CPR courses. always on a dummy and sometime pretend on a mate. apart from the number of blows to pumps its still the same. so peace of cake really.

well that's what i thought until the real deal happened, its bloody hard work. ambo took over 30 minits. if anyone claims they can do CPR for longer than 5 mints i will call you a liar.

and if you think anyone will help, your joking the average aussie is more interested in Gorking or taking photos than helping. with one guys screaming at me, DONT touch him you may hirt his back. The bloke was blue, doubt he was thinking about his back

defif tuning up in 10 minits would have been great

You can call me a liar,I've done CPR for 40mins non stop,I was sweating so much I kept slipping off the blokes chest,I was 10kg lighter and worked out 6 times a week back then thou,and was so knackered that another officer finished my shift. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

You can call me a liar,I've done CPR for 40mins non stop,I was sweating so much I kept slipping off the blokes chest,I was 10kg lighter and worked out 6 times a week back then thou,and was so knackered that another officer finished my shift. Pat

1 why did you do CPR for 40 minutes, why didn't some one take over??