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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausfree View Post
    What I don't like about this situation is the vehicle who wants to turn left against a red light triggers the road sensors, he is long gone and the traffic coming the other way still have to stop at a red light for a vehicle that is no longer there. Very frustrating, if you are one of those other vehicles.
    In South Australia the central traffic control computer cancels the lights request if the vehicle leaves the sensor before the phase is initiated. Other states may of course have inferior systems.

    https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...agement-centre

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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic View Post
    Left turn on red where signposted - yes indeed. It's been that way for as long as I can remember in Sydney. Only just now starting to be introduced in Brisbane.
    The most important words on that "signpost" is "after stopping", seen a few booked for rolling through and not coming to a complete stop, Merry Xmas, Regards Frank.

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    There are suburban areas in Brisbane and Qld that have signs at light controlled intersections where there is a formed separate left lane "left turn anytime with care" and also there are signs on control lights at intersections "U Turns Permitted" they are the only places where legal "U" turns can be made,all others will get you an infringement notice if caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    In South Australia the central traffic control computer cancels the lights request if the vehicle leaves the sensor before the phase is initiated. Other states may of course have inferior systems.

    https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...agement-centre
    That doesn't surprise me, the stingy gummit in NSW wouldn't cough up the coin to put that system in. That's a great idea, because as I drive a bus for a living and working to a timetable, it is VERY frustrating for me to be sitting at a red light for no reason.

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    Just a quick bit of research suggests the system used across Australia and a number of other major centres/cities across the world is a development of Sydney Coordinated Adaptive Traffic System (SCATS), which was originally put in place by NSW (what is now RMS) in 1972 and adopted by SA in 1982.

    From memory at low traffic times it goes to a timed phasing to give secondary roads a go, otherwise you could be a lone car sitting at an intersection for a very long time.

    Of course you realise traffic lights are always on red more than green.

    I do remember learning about this when I was at uni in the mid 70s


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    Isn't SCAT the word they use in Africa to describe what bush animals leave behind them?
    If so that certainly describes the system WA uses to hold up traffic....no rhyme nor reason for the long delays at most lights except so called "safety".....a stopped car is less likely to be involved in an accident!
    As for even considering letting the average local use his own judgement!!!! Don't be daft, we see the results of that in the road fatality figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATH View Post
    Isn't SCAT the word they use in Africa to describe what bush animals leave behind them?
    Not just Africa. "Scat" is another term for animal dung.

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    And the example is SCATS and it's an acronym, not a word.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    In South Australia the central traffic control computer cancels the lights request if the vehicle leaves the sensor before the phase is initiated. Other states may of course have inferior systems.
    The intersection nearest me has a 'left turn permitted after stopping' sign, and I can tell you if cars go through turning left it won't trigger the lights. I know this as my bike won't trigger the lights if I'm going straight ahead and wish the left turning people would set off the lights. I've even had to jump off and run across to push the walk button.

    About 90% of the cars don't stop, just roll through, just like stop signs. I feel like I'm the only one that comes to a complete stop.

    As for WA drivers being shocking, discotwinturbo, I spent two weeks in October/November this year and have been there quite a bit and find them much better than Sydney or Melbourne drivers. Maybe they just give me a wide berth due to my interstate plates. My brother who has lived there since the mid 70s warned me about 'heavy traffic'. We laughed at Perth's 'heavy traffic'.

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