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    what the hell is it that you think a couple of quick trips to 80 deg does to alter the goodness of of milk?

    mainly it stops the possibility of kids getting Q fever and a couple of other nasties

    the trip to 2000psi only puts the cream into solution....

    personally, i think the fact that one child has died, means things need to be altered so it isn't sold in containers that look like normal milk in the hope there is little chance that a child could accidentally be exposed to a very debilitating and sometimes fatal illness that is entirely preventable at little to no cost..
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    I wish to clarify, in recent times, how many kiddies have died from accidentally drinking milk for cosmetic use?
    All of the cases I have heard of were knowingly fed raw milk not intended human consumption.
    How would any changes in packaging or labeling stop this?

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    how many have died?
    how many deaths should be acceptable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    how many have died?
    how many deaths should be acceptable?
    No death is acceptable.
    Now, perhaps you may wish to answer my questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I wish to clarify, in recent times, how many kiddies have died from accidentally drinking milk for cosmetic use?
    All of the cases I have heard of were knowingly fed raw milk not intended human consumption.
    How would any changes in packaging or labeling stop this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    No death is acceptable.
    Now, perhaps you may wish to answer my questions.
    i really like the idea given in this thread of child proof lids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i really like the idea given in this thread of child proof lids.
    But this only addresses the issue of children accidentally opening the container.
    The problem is, I think the Alternative lifestyle city mothers who think they are doing the right thing by feeding their children unprocessed foods.
    I think child proof lids and bittering agents would work.
    This would also address several issues. And this is just my opinion. The small cottage dairies are set up to use conventional packaging. And they are producing a product that is cheaper to produce as it does not require so much processing. The profit margins are higher as well because the end product is sold in a niche market for 3 or 4 times what a litre of 'normal' milk costs. If you introduce new packaging and additives many small cottage dairies could not absorb the cost of the up grading of the machinery and simply stop producing raw milk. Those that could would produce a far more expensive 'beauty' product that Earth mother doesn't want anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i really like the idea given in this thread of child proof lids.
    How does a child proof lid stop an adult opening the container and knowingly feeding their child with raw milk?
    By all means, put a child proof lid on the container but that doesn't solve the problem.

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    it never will mick,

    but making he package stand out will have some effect.

    forcing them to not use packaging that looks like "proper" milk will have a major effect on price, availability and viability of a product that shouldn't be for sale in the first place in a fridge beside "proper" milk, as it can kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Yuk
    Garry,

    it's spelt "YAK"

    where do you get your YAK milk?

    I don't know much about YAKs but here is what I have learnt...

    A Nepalese bovine that drinks too much coffee is called an Insomni-yak.

    A nauseous Nepalese bovine on a 70's dance floor is called an Afro-dizzy-yak.

    A Nepalese bovine exposing himself on a trampoline is called Jumpin' Yak Flash.

    A Nepalese bovine in a crate is called Yak-in-the-box.

    A Nepalese bovine's favourite U.S. president is Bayak Obama.

    A Nepalese bovine uses a yaket to play tennis.

    and of course...

    A Nepalese bovines favourite digestive liquor is Cogn-yak.


    Hope this helps...

    (as for the milk, why is this needed as a "beauty product" anyway??
    I suggest completely different packaging for this milk to any actual
    drinking milk... and yes, in this case nothing would make a difference as this "hippie" has made a decision that has cost their kid their life...

    Manslaughter in my opinion, knowingly doing this.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    it never will mick,

    but making he package stand out will have some effect.

    forcing them to not use packaging that looks like "proper" milk will have a major effect on price, availability and viability of a product that shouldn't be for sale in the first place in a fridge beside "proper" milk, as it can kill.
    Ah, yes. All fine suggestions but, getting back to what I think the point of the OP, all knee jerk reactions that fix a problem that doesn't exist. The problem is parents are knowingly feeding this product to their toddlers. You want to solve the problem? Solve that one. Anything else is pointless nanny state compliance.

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