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    Meet the 4x4 enthusiasts who reject 21st-century technology

    Meet the 4x4 enthusiasts who reject 21st-century technology - Telegraph



    An interesting reading is in the comments area at the bottom of the article.

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    A more apt headline "Meet the enthusiasts who enjoy older 4 wheel drives"

    If a mechanical part fails you replace the part
    - yep, got it...

    But if an ECU vehicle has a fault it could be a sensor
    - yep, a mechanical type part.. That you can just replace...

    If you crack an injector pump in the middle of nowhere, you are no better off than having an ECU have a sensor fail...

    These stories are painful....

    Perhaps if Malaysian airlines was flying Focker Friendships they wouldn't be suffering the recent issues?

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    Tombie Guest
    I do applaud the work they (these individuals) do in winter!!!!!

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    I think the following line from the article is the key. It doesn't suggest they are more reliable, just easier to diagnose and fix generally speaking;

    "There is less guess work as to what's going wrong in a vehicle like this"

    I had a HSV spend two weeks at the dealers being diagnosed and fixed because it wouldn't start one morning. Turned out a body control module had **** itself. That can't happen with an old Defender, it has no body control at all... Without the dealer I had no hope of ever fixing the car, hell, they barely had any idea.

    I don't think modern cars are less reliable, in-fact I think some of them are considerably more reliable, but there is a truck-load more that can go wrong and when it does it can be well beyond the average person to effect a repair.

    I understand how these guys with their older vehicles think and I don't believe it is necessarily incorrect. I'm happy with my 300TDi now as well and part of that is because I know if something isn't right I can lift the bonnet and stand half a chance of fixing it, but I'd be just as happy in the latest Puma 2.2 as well. My ideal world will include both at some stage

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    Me is a luddite I suppose

    Cause I like old Landys

    Better than the new ones

    But I have been told that

    I could be considered eccectric

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    Modern vehicle - modern tools
    Old vehicle - old tools

    Many people couldn't fix any problem when out bush - or know where to start... Modern or otherwise.

    Many youngsters can't time an engine, but can tune an EFI racer and know how to make it go hard...

    I enjoy all vehicles - and fear working on none of them - with the right tools...

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    While in GB it is probably a mute point, but if I lived in some of the more isolated countries (think third world) then there is a lot of sense to be made with ownership of a simple tdi.
    But here and a lot of other places for that matter, technology is part of the learning curve.
    For example I never go anywhere without my Nanocom
    But I guess if your curve finishes at mechanical then the kiss principle is for you.

    It was all new to me at the start going from a 300tdi to a td5 but I can assure you all it was a step foward
    And I have loved the journey.

    Paul
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    77 series3 (sold)
    95 300Tdi Ute (sold)
    2003 XTREME Td5

    I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

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