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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    obstructing traffic.
    its one of those laws that is never enforced
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    I remember the outcry when an old lady was booked for doing 60 on the Victor Harbor Rd in a 100 zone. The copper disagreed with her idea of driving safely, I don't remember how it turned out after the story was published in the news.

    It's only illegal to impede traffic flow by driving slowly if you have no good reason to do so. For example a tractor that is registered for road use can't be expected to travel at 100, 80 or even 60. Poor visibility is another good reason to travel slowly. Do you drive through dense fog or smoke at 100? Do you madly accelerate and brake between two slow corners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    BS

    I remember the outcry when an old lady was booked for doing 60 on the Victor Harbor Rd in a 100 zone. The copper disagreed with her idea of driving safely, I don't remember how it turned out after the story was published in the news.

    It's only illegal to impede traffic flow by driving slowly if you have no good reason to do so. For example a tractor that is registered for road use can't be expected to travel at 100, 80 or even 60. Poor visibility is another good reason to travel slowly.

    first time for everything. i had not heard of that.
    fog, rain ect are good reasons to slow down



    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Do you madly accelerate and brake between two slow corners?
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    Type 1 road trains are restricted to 90kmh, Type 2 (3or more trailers) restricted to 80.
    My current drive (KW T650) is rated for 90 tonnes GCM, and registered for single, b double, heavy haulage, and Type 1 roadtrain. With 550hp it is a far cry from the first one I drove (Flintstone Mack with a "C" motor, around 250hp IIRC) That one pulled 75 tonnes (tons back then ) to the Gulf Country. I would have loved to have been able to do 70kmh when that was loaded!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
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    Poor visibility is another good reason to travel slowly. Do you drive through dense fog or smoke at 100? Do you madly accelerate and brake between two slow corners?
    Plenty of idiots do. We've had some pretty heavy fogs around here in last few weeks. I slow my B dub down to a speed where I can pull up before hitting an unexpected obstruction on the dark and foggy roadway and I am constantly passed by cars travelling at the speed limit or higher. More often than not they are P platers. It seems that most drivers think that if they cannot see anything, there is nothing to see. That's the point of double lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    Type 1 road trains are restricted to 90kmh, Type 2 (3or more trailers) restricted to 80.
    My current drive (KW T650) is rated for 90 tonnes GCM, and registered for single, b double, heavy haulage, and Type 1 roadtrain. With 550hp it is a far cry from the first one I drove (Flintstone Mack with a "C" motor, around 250hp IIRC) That one pulled 75 tonnes (tons back then ) to the Gulf Country. I would have loved to have been able to do 70kmh when that was loaded!

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    Ha ha, I know where you're coming from. I remember when the norm was 190-240 HP and 350 HP was wet dream material. Now even a garbage truck has 250-300 HP.
    At present, 600 HP is pretty much the practical max; anything above that shreds tyres and guts fuel for very little extra performance.
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    what the....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post
    Yep, I kind of wish I hadn't now.
    Has been interesting though.
    Keep going.
    I was just commenting re an incident that happened to me that shook me.
    Shouldn't have as due to where I work I do occasionally cop a bit of mouth.


    BTW Usually on my drive to/from work all the truckies are considerate, friendly & very good drivers.
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    It is one of those laws that is there but rarely enforced. However saying that the police in WA have stated they will be cracking down on it in WA, especially if you are in the right lane on the freeways / highways as well as failing to keep left. 2 tickets for the price of 1. Don't know how many they have actually booked yet. It is a daily occurrence on the Kwinnana Fwy over here for 1 truck to pull out to pass another #1 sitting on say 90 in a 110 zone, #2 pulls out to pass and doesn't have the power so they sit side by side for the next 20kms until one gives.
    The quote about tractors is sort of right, they usually have restricted distances and are obliged to allow traffic to clear when safe to do so.
    I agree with the intent of the law, but it is near impossible to put into practice. Who determines what is a valid reason?
    Some examples:
    #1 driving a HSV Clubby sitting on 80kms cause he feels its safer in a 110kmph zone. Clear day, good vision.
    #2 Nan and Pop carting the old caravan behind the Belmont down to the beachside Caravan Park, sitting on 80kmph in 100km zone because any faster and the Belmont will overheat?
    #3 Heavy Haulage Driver on a fair gradient with 3 trailers doing 60 in a 100.
    #4 Heavy Haulage Driver on a flat doing 80 in a 100 because his prime mover is flogged out and incapable of 100kmph.
    #5 L plate driver learning to drive doing 60 in an 80.
    #6 Push bike riders doing 20kmph in a 110kmph zone 2 abreast.
    #7 Thick fog some traffic doing 60, some 80, some 40, some 110.
    So many scenarios and when is someone wrong?
    #7 has occurred twice this year not far from us on the Kwinnana Fwy near Thomas Rd with catastrophic results. Major accidents and 2 people dead in 4 separate crashes. On one occasion 2 crashes within 100metres. Too many variables in these. Who was driving safely.? The one doing 80, the one doing 100 or the one who stopped in the middle of the road. Big can of worms.
    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    BS

    I remember the outcry when an old lady was booked for doing 60 on the Victor Harbor Rd in a 100 zone. The copper disagreed with her idea of driving safely, I don't remember how it turned out after the story was published in the news.

    It's only illegal to impede traffic flow by driving slowly if you have no good reason to do so. For example a tractor that is registered for road use can't be expected to travel at 100, 80 or even 60. Poor visibility is another good reason to travel slowly. Do you drive through dense fog or smoke at 100? Do you madly accelerate and brake between two slow corners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Ha ha, I know where you're coming from. I remember when the norm was 190-240 HP and 350 HP was wet dream material. Now even a garbage truck has 250-300 HP.
    At present, 600 HP is pretty much the practical max; anything above that shreds tyres and guts fuel for very little extra performance.
    A bit of what I was getting at but possibly did not articulate correctly. C500 / 510s are pretty much the norm around here for mining ore haulage. As said a far cry from the old SAR and Ws that used to be around here. The issue was in the early days in the mid to late 80s when they first went triples here all they did was add an extra trailer. Most of that has been remedied now. One of the biggest issue was then all the subbies started over loading as they were paid by the dry tonne with ore often being wet. Now don't get me wrong I get why they did it, but was hugely unsafe. Often would get a doubles in over the weighbridge that from memory should have been around a 76 tonne payload come in at 110 tonne plus. Had to rev a couple of contractors about the practice. Often barely any brakes working. Had one triple even come in at nearly 150 tonne from memory should have been 110-115. Now with my family driving these roads, you can see why this aggravated me. In the end any truck that came in a 5 tonne or more over was flagged and stood down by banning from the pad after the 3rd offence for a week and then so on. The issue was all the contractors would then just put it on another run. Should not have been an issue as load cell front end loaders were being used to determine weights. Nickel can be very deceiving buy sight due to its SG. So in the old days pre load cell loaders easy to get wrong.
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