Thread: Now that's a flag!

Australia currently has a flag that represents our colonial past, now more than 100 years ago, and a time when people could still see the starry sky in the main cities. It might be time to look forwards rather than backwards.

I suggest a flag consisting of a red-brown rectangle, representing our recurring droughts, a thin green line around 3 edges representing the bit that's liveable, and a black, toilet shaped hole in the middle representing our mining future.

Originally Posted by bee utey

Australia currently has a flag that represents our colonial past, now more than 100 years ago, and a time when people could still see the starry sky in the main cities. It might be time to look forwards rather than backwards.

I suggest a flag consisting of a red-brown rectangle, representing our recurring droughts, a thin green line around 3 edges representing the bit that's liveable, and a black, toilet shaped hole in the middle representing our mining future.

i'll vote for that!

Kind of makes us look like England's bitch with a union jack in the corner of our flag

I also think people died for an ideal, not a flag. It's related but not the same. I'm proud of our country's heritage (but ashamed of some of our people).

It's like the bogans have latched on to the southern cross as their unofficial flag which makes me flinch when I see it. The southern cross bumper sticker is normally accompanied by the f' off we're full sticker in my experience. Not the inclusive vision I have for our country. A new flag might be just the ticket to kick off a new movement of working together as a country. But then again, maybe not

Pricey

My idea of a flag is something that when you see it, people will automaticly think Australia, like Canada and the USA, Great Britan

There should be NO reference to anybodys background, so no Union, Aboriginal, Greek or whoevers flag and the Southern Cross is a good start.

Baz.

Originally Posted by Redback

There should be NO reference to anybodys background, so no Union, Aboriginal, Greek or whoevers flag and the Southern Cross is a good start.

redback for PM!

Originally Posted by Redback

My idea of a flag is something that when you see it, people will automaticly think Australia, like Canada and the USA, Great Britan

But how do you depict a crap cricket team on a flag?

Originally Posted by gusthedog

But how do you depict a crap cricket team on a flag?

A fruitbat?

Originally Posted by discovery39

What's wrong with the Union Jack???????
Oh, that's right, nuthin!

Union Jack's are O.K. on the bow sprit of Royal Navy ships, but why should either New Zealand or Australia have a defaced ensign as a national flag. Particularly ones where the Union Flag of the United Kingdom obliterates the premier quadrant (upper hoist) of our flags.

As John Williamson once said, (paraphrasing) it's like the Union Flag is imposed over our great Australian (or New Zealand) sky reminding us every day that we are a subjugated people beholden to Britain.

Originally Posted by d2dave

Don't get me started on this. Men and women died for our flag. So what if there is a small pommy flag in the corner.

LEAVE IT ALONE!

Actually until Vietnam Aussie and Kiwi soldiers fought and died under the Union Flag, but whats more important they didn't fight for the flag they fought for their mates and for their country whether that be Australia or New Zealand.

Our other Commonwealth Allies in those earlier conflicts have all changed their flags (Canada, India, South Africa) and even the United States has changed it's flag, twice, since WWII, so as always we seem to be lagging behind.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Originally Posted by Eevo

i believe australia is the only country in the world to have two official flags.

Australia actually has more than two - national flag, merchant navy ensign, army flag (same as national), naval ensign, air force flag, civil aviation flag, not to mention all the state and territory flags, plus the aboriginal flag.

Same sort of thing applies to other countries, for example, the UK has the Union Flag, red ensign, blue ensign, white ensign, or the USA, which has the national flag and merchant navy ensign. And I am sure many other countries also have multiple flags, most commonly a distinctive flag at sea and for armed forces.

John

And the Torres Straight Islander Flag. (omitting the fact that the states mostly have ensigns rather than flags)

Originally Posted by Eevo

NZ is written into the Australian Constitution.

True in the original Federation movement in the 1880s New Zealand was to be one of the States, but prior to 1901 they decided to go it alone.

Having a sister country so close is great but we don't need to become a single country so long as we work constructively together, it would also make our sporting events more like interstate competitions (Sheffield Shield etc.) and where's the interest in that?

Originally Posted by gusthedog

But how do you depict a crap cricket team on a flag?

We'd have to have two flags:

1. One for when they're crap
2. the other for when they're great!