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**V8Ian** · 18th September 2015, 07:11 PM

As to why are houses are built out of square. Because the builders buy their squares from Bunnings.
I bought one today, fortunately I checked it before I used it. Over 200 mm it was 5 mm out. I returned it and was offered a refund or exchange. As I didn't buy it as a decoration I opted for the exchange, but decided to check it before I left the shop. There were four others on the shelf, all of them were equally inaccurate.
For crying out loud, it's a simple tool that has to perform only one function, the QA is obviously non-exsistent; what a waste of time and resources.

I just had a thought, maybe they were intended for Ron.

**p38arover** · 18th September 2015, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I just had a thought, maybe they were intended for Ron.

Nah, Ian, I'd already bought an out of square engineer's square a few months back from Total Tools. When I took it back, the bloke behind the counter didn't believe me. I had to explain to (and show) him how to check a square. The replacement was ok.

**benji** · 18th September 2015, 07:34 PM

I'm showing my ignorance here, but how do you check it's a square, not an obtuse?

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**V8Ian** · 18th September 2015, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by p38arover

Nah, Ian, I'd already bought an out of square engineer's square a few months back from Total Tools. When I took it back, the bloke behind the counter didn't believe me. I had to explain to (and show) him how to check a square. The replacement was ok.

As did I.

Originally Posted by benji

I'm showing my ignorance here, but how do you check it's a square, not an obtuse?

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Draw a line with the square, flip it 180* and compare the line. If the square is accurate the line will be in alignment.

**Toxic_Avenger** · 18th September 2015, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

As did I.

Draw a line with the square, flip it 180* and compare the line. If the square is accurate the line will be in alignment.

And here I was trying to remember Pythagoras theorem.

/Nerd alert.

**pop058** · 18th September 2015, 08:19 PM

some like pictures

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0liI-4rzpN4[/ame]

**d2dave** · 18th September 2015, 09:20 PM

Two minutes and twenty four seconds to show us that. I could have done it in twenty seconds.

**V8Ian** · 18th September 2015, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

And here I was trying to remember Pythagoras theorem.

/Nerd alert.

Whose siggy line says "Keeping things simple is complex"?

**vnx205** · 19th September 2015, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by d2dave

Two minutes and twenty four seconds to show us that. I could have done it in twenty seconds.

Exactly!

That is one of my big gripes about such clips.

It's is like the "bogged vehicle recovery" clips that start with two minutes of the vehicle sitting in a mudhole while all his mates stand around scratching their heads and finishes with two minutes of his mates all falling about laughing when something breaks during the recovery.

Between those two there might be ten seconds of the actual recovery..

**CraigE** · 19th September 2015, 07:36 AM

Well thanks for that learnt something new this morning. Does explain why a couple of my projects have been several mm out.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

As did I.

Draw a line with the square, flip it 180* and compare the line. If the square is accurate the line will be in alignment.

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