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    I suppose autonomous vehicles are unlikely to have an argument at the pub and then drive off in a huff and kill a mother and daughter.
    Police warn against driving while emotional, after mum and daughter killed Police warn against driving while emotional, after mother and daughter killed in car crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) - via @abcnews

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    i cant wait for the autonomous v8 supercars to race around the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I suppose autonomous vehicles are unlikely to have an argument at the pub and then drive off in a huff and kill a mother and daughter.
    Police warn against driving while emotional, after mum and daughter killed Police warn against driving while emotional, after mother and daughter killed in car crash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) - via @abcnews
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    If the Police don't want us to drive cranky, they should stay well out of sight.

    Incidentally, at least one Auto Manufacturer has stated that the software in their Autonomous vehicles will be written to put the lives of it's occupants above all else. Sounds good,,,,,,Or does it?
    That means If a Heavy Vehicle blows a tyre and is heading for one of these vehicles, and the only escape rout is through a group of innocent bystanders on the grassy knoll beside the road, then that vehicle will drive through the innocent bystanders. If a human drivers do that, they are prosecuted for manslaughter.
    Will the CEOs of Auto Manufacturing Companies be prosecuted for manslaughter in such cases? IMV the should be. Such arrogance beggers belief.
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    On the subject of the accident: The Victims vehicle was exiting the driveway onto a dead straight, divided two lanes /side road, with a clear view into the distance of 1.8 Kilometres and a speed limit of 100 KpH. The Commodore came to rest 80 to 90 Meters from the driveway.(from what I can tell).
    Why is this accident blamed on the Commodore driver? How can anyone ( who isn't a complete arsehole ) assume, that the driver of the Commodore was in any particular frame of mind at all? Given that the victims had been to a parent teacher interview, might they not have been in a distracted state of mind?
    The whole story has the taste of complete and utter CRAP​ to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuppabillytea View Post
    If the Police don't want us to drive cranky, they should stay well out of sight.

    Incidentally, at least one Auto Manufacturer has stated that the software in their Autonomous vehicles will be written to put the lives of it's occupants above all else. Sounds good,,,,,,Or does it?
    That means If a Heavy Vehicle blows a tyre and is heading for one of these vehicles, and the only escape rout is through a group of innocent bystanders on the grassy knoll beside the road, then that vehicle will drive through the innocent bystanders. If a human drivers do that, they are prosecuted for manslaughter.
    Will the CEOs of Auto Manufacturing Companies be prosecuted for manslaughter in such cases? IMV the should be. Such arrogance beggers belief.
    The law as currently proposed, the passenger who has no control over the car whatsoever, is liable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    The law as currently proposed, the passenger who has no control over the car whatsoever, is liable.
    You won't get me in one if that is the case.
    I see the reason for this: Tell me I'm a cynic but I reckon that each case that is prosecuted will result in an acquittal, on the grounds that the passenger had no control. The mater having been resolved will result in no further action. The passenger is off scot free. The auto manufacturer is off scot free and the pore sole who was clobbered is dead and his family is back at home teaching their grand mother to suck eggs.
    It will be a sad indictment on our society if the Manufacturers are allowed to get away with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuppabillytea View Post
    You won't get me in one if that is the case.
    I see the reason for this: Tell me I'm a cynic but I reckon that each case that is prosecuted will result in an acquittal, on the grounds that the passenger had no control. The mater having been resolved will result in no further action. The passenger is off scot free. The auto manufacturer is off scot free and the pore sole who was clobbered is dead and his family is back at home teaching their grand mother to suck eggs.
    It will be a sad indictment on our society if the Manufacturers are allowed to get away with this.
    Acquittal from criminal action, maybe, but civil actin will look a percentage of blame. The argument being, if the occupant hadn't been in the car, the car wouldn't have been there.
    I would like to see blame put on the supplier, who can then blame the manufacturer, who can then blame the designer.
    I would love to own an autonomous vehicle but not if I could potentially lose my house over something I have no control over that is built and designed by others.

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    Originally Posted by AndyG
    i cant wait for the **** ing autonomous vehicles thread.





    I fail to see the value in autonomous ****ing vehicles
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuppabillytea View Post
    You won't get me in one if that is the case.
    I see the reason for this: Tell me I'm a cynic but I reckon that each case that is prosecuted will result in an acquittal, on the grounds that the passenger had no control. The mater having been resolved will result in no further action. The passenger is off scot free. The auto manufacturer is off scot free and the pore sole who was clobbered is dead and his family is back at home teaching their grand mother to suck eggs.
    It will be a sad indictment on our society if the Manufacturers are allowed to get away with this.
    You've not heard of insurance? No matter who's to blame in an AV accident, if the vehicle is fully insured let the insurance companies fight the battle. To get an AV legally registered in any state the insurance angle will have to be worked out very thoroughly well in advance. Nothing for the consumer to fret over unless they dangerously modify their AV themselves.

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