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Volvo's driverless cars 'confused' by kangaroos - Volvo's driverless cars 'confused' by kangaroos - BBC News
Won't need many police cars if most crashes and road rage are eliminated.Originally Posted by trog
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:
Volvo's driverless cars 'confused' by kangaroos - Volvo's driverless cars 'confused' by kangaroos - BBC News
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Yes, but once they've learned how to recognise roos then every autonomous car can be programmed with the same information. Whereas each and every driver has to be trained anew.
Yep and when there is an electrical problem or computer malfunction 1,000 k's from the nearest city, then what... oh yeh passengers die of thirst but they didnt die as a result of an accident or is it an accident, maybe not because no collision...
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There won't be electronic communications in a future full of autonomous vehicles? Going bush in an AV without backup similar to an EPIRB would be as daft in the future just as it is now by any other means.
ForumSage
Roos hopping down a road in front of you operate with an algorithm that no computer will ever conquer.
DL
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I got to use an EPIRB a couple of years ago... In NZ...
Good for people that need them, and as I was in NZ, not really knowledgeable of there country...
Over here, never had them when I was young, it was a case of, you break down and dont get home by tuesday, then may as well not rush because you missed the pool comp at the pub anyway...
If the future goes all gadget minded and reliant upon technology to make decisions for us, we will pay the price...
People need to remember, if something stops working and you haven't learnt to do something without that technology, then its more dangerous than before the technology...
Example would be ABS, stability control or traction control... Nice flash technology but take someone that has never driven without this technology and you have a person that is an accident waiting to happen...
When I teach someone to drive, its without those gadgets... My son and his friends are shown how to handle vehicles that dont have any of those gadgets and when you take someone into a paddock, thats wet and greasy, up a slope in a ute that has no lsd, no gadget controls and they are able get up the hill where someone else with a 4wd is sliding backwards, they soon discover that gadgets are great but skill is more fun...
We are losing all these skills, we are making the problems that we should be preventing in the first place... If you never learn to drive and something goes wrong with your autonomous vehicle, you are stuck on the road waiting for someone to save you... That is another problem being created when you could learn those skills and continue with slight inconvenience..
The other issue is, we are not teaching people the correct skills and attitude of driving as it is, so are we not going to be allowed to drive eventually?
Technology is great but it is only a tool, just like a hammer, but to let that hammer do the work without you...
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People who show aptitude to drive can and will always have the opportunity to learn. Those with no innate ability should be happy with autonomous vehicles as they will far exceed their inadequate skills. It's much like pilot's licences, only a small percentage of the population have a pilots licence. The largest percentage pay to sit in a plane that's piloted pretty much automatically these days.
Quite a few industries are already partly or mainly autonomous, warehousing, manufacturing, mining and farming are examples. Dull and repetitive tasks are better all round when automated. I spoke recently to a farmer who spends much of his day sitting and observing while the tractor he's on pirouettes around a vast field doing its own thing. Soon these things will be remotely monitored like mining trucks and only visited when they break down. Electronics may crash occasionally and cause a shut down but even the best driver occasionally loses the plot and causes an incident.
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Here is a vid showing exactly that.... 50 seconds in you can see Autonomous Steering in action.. Mouldboard ploughing is still very common in Europe, and with smaller ploughs, the tractor used to run with 2 wheels in the previous ploughed final furrow.... Now tho the kit is so big (Fendt 1050 is a front wheel assist 500hp machine.. The biggest front wheel assist tractor currently available), the plough has to be centrally towed, meaning the tractor no longer runs in the furrow. Here's where the accuracy of Autosteer comes in. Accuracy within 25mm using a base station on or near farm. (Sub meter if using 'free to air').
Fendt 1050 vario + 8 furrow Lemken Diamant 11 On-Land Plough | KMWP Ploegen / Pflugen - YouTube
At 3.05min, you get an in cab shot showing the steering wheel (unmanned), and a view of the 'Varioterminal' showing the area covered/worked. The tractor is following an 'A-B Line', which is set up upon entering the paddock (setup requires implement widths, pivot points, overlap etc). This can be done by driving a lap of the headland manually first, defining the outer area of the land to be worked, and then the system will work out the best way to do the infill, or it can be set by driving the longest length of the paddock manually, setting point A at the start and B at the finish of the run. Once set, the operator sets up for the first run and presses 'Go'. The tractor locates the A-B line, (and if set up using Fendt 'Teach In', can then also do several other things like increase revs, engage PTO, set speed, lower linkage etc). As the operator nears the opposite headland, he presses 'End' on the joystick, and resumes control. If Teach In is being used, the tractor will reverse the process initiated at 'Go'. A turn is manually made by the operator, and when he/she has the tractor within a few meters of the start of the next row, 'Go' is again pressed and the whole process is repeated! Sounds difficult, but once setup, it's very easy. What's more is that the tractor will log that paddock (whole far too), and will know which paddock its in the next time around.. (Type in implement and it'll adjust to suit)!!! I won't go into Isobus, as that's got even more magic to it!!
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