Thread: I have my own private crime wave

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Frank, whilst I can see your point of view, you can't judge all coppers on the action of one or two; any more than you can lump all >insert group of choice< together, by the behaviour of a few.

it works the other way too ian. a few good ones doesnt outweigh the rest.

Originally Posted by mekon76

Curious how your son ran into this individual? Chance encounter (car accident) or associated with him in one form or another? Not casting aspersions just curious. If the later, he needs to quickly become a better judge of character.

If you hang around deadbeats, this sort of stuff happens. If not, and the other by means of random encounter (a lot rarer this way) then that truly sucks. HAving been in a similar situation of threats to kill I can assure you the Police can only act when it appears to be a real and credible liklihood of occuring or they'd be forever chasing up hollow threats made. Sad fact is because of this a small percentage of real threats lots of people aren't able to be adequately protected under AVOs etc when they really should be.

A tough judgement call for a Police officer to make. Often hamstrung by process and procedure.

My son employed him as an offsider in our scrap business, he seemed to be a good worker, unlike the few other offsiders we'd had.
After a few weeks we realised he was stealing from us and using the truck without permission, he was paid off and sacked, we had no idea of his previous criminal activities or record.
We started getting phone and text message threats and on his Face book page, all traceable and provable and offered to the police (fed.) who were not interested.
This thug said he was a member of a major Motorcycle gang in ACT and he was working on their behalf and they wanted our business out of Canberra or they would kill my son and his family, torch my truck and kill me and my missus and burn our house, here on the South coast.
My son approached a member of this motorcycle gang, who he had once worked with and explained what was happening, this fella made some enquiries and found that our tormentor (will refer to him as AH) had nothing to do with their Club nor did they have any problems with our business.
Anyway AH ended up in hospital with some serious injuries and was put on notice.
We moved the business down to my place in Moruya, the threats continued, NSW police became involved and were waiting for him on the steps of the court in ACT when he was released on bail for the assault on the muslim man and his son.
He is now serving goal time in 13 wing in Long Bay Goal according to his Facebook page, which was used to convict him, ****ing idiot.
You say the police can only act when something actually happens (bit late if you're dead), maybe so but in my experiences the police (ACT) refused to even consider evidence that would have led to AH's arrest and their attitude was that AH wasn't a problem, but we were because we asked for help and protection, which they flatly refused, unlike the NSW cops who actually did some investigation and put AH where he belongs. So I suppose "credible" evidence doesn't impress the ACT cops and I should accept that as the norm, Regards frank.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Frank, whilst I can see your point of view, you can't judge all coppers on the action of one or two; any more than you can lump all >insert group of choice< together, by the behaviour of a few.

Mate it is more than one or two, in the ACT police force it is endemic, we encountered dozens of different officers and they ALL had the same mindset, "yeh, come back and see us when they have assaulted you with hard evidence from more than one source".
Yet across the border in NSW, the cops couldn't do enough, even as far as raiding AH's property with the Counter Terrorism Squad where they recovered $140,000 worth of stolen property along with illegal firearms.
So AH had the means and the mind to commit murder and the ACT police did NOTHING, Regards Frank.

Frank, I can't imagine the trauma you and your family have had to put up with, over this scumbag. There was a time I was quite naive, regarding our police force. I had never struck a real bad copper , or had a bad experience with them. Then I read Matthew Condons first book " Three crooked Kings", about pre Fitzgerald Qld.. My god, what an eye opener. Out of that I concluded all that is needed for a corrupt & lazy Police force, is a corrupt & lazy Government. And a naive and apathetic voting public. Have you approached your local Federal Member, and asked for the relevant authority to investigate the ACT police forces' handling of your problem? Failing that, contact Condon, at the Courier Mail, Bowen Hills. He thrives on this type of stuff.

Originally Posted by bob10

Frank, I can't imagine the trauma you and your family have had to put up with, over this scumbag. There was a time I was quite naive, regarding our police force. I had never struck a real bad copper , or had a bad experience with them. Then I read Matthew Condons first book " Three crooked Kings", about pre Fitzgerald Qld.. My god, what an eye opener. Out of that I concluded all that is needed for a corrupt & lazy Police force, is a corrupt & lazy Government. And a naive and apathetic voting public. Have you approached your local Federal Member, and asked for the relevant authority to investigate the ACT police forces' handling of your problem? Failing that, contact Condon, at the Courier Mail, Bowen Hills. He thrives on this type of stuff.

Bob i have no problem with the NSW police, esp the local command down here, when it seemed we weren't getting anywhere the officer we were talking to suggested we meet the top cop down here. I have nothing but praise for our local and Queanbeyan police, they made the ACT Fed. police look like complacent, ignorant fools that put our lives in danger with their apathy, I hope I never have to deal with them (ACT Police) ever again.
We are happy with the way things have proceeded and I don't believe anything I could do would change the system or attitude of the ACT Fed. Police, it's one big Boy's club. I have a friend who is an ex ACT Fed. copper, it broke his heart and soul, all he ever wanted was to be a good copper.
But because he wouldn't fall into line with the corruption and apathy he was sent to "Coventry" until it became impossible for him to stay. When we told him of our problems (is an ex cop) he was sorry but he could not come up with a single cop (ACT Fed.) that could assist us with our problem, sad indictment of the ACT police, sorry to any who are not as I described, but there are not enough of you to make a difference, regards Frank.

That's ****ty Frank. Thanks for explaining.

That's not good, Federal is on my career path Maybe I'll skip it...

Originally Posted by Tank

Bob i have no problem with the NSW police, esp the local command down here, when it seemed we weren't getting anywhere the officer we were talking to suggested we meet the top cop down here. I have nothing but praise for our local and Queanbeyan police, they made the ACT Fed. police look like complacent, ignorant fools that put our lives in danger with their apathy, I hope I never have to deal with them (ACT Police) ever again.
We are happy with the way things have proceeded and I don't believe anything I could do would change the system or attitude of the ACT Fed. Police, it's one big Boy's club. I have a friend who is an ex ACT Fed. copper, it broke his heart and soul, all he ever wanted was to be a good copper.
But because he wouldn't fall into line with the corruption and apathy he was sent to "Coventry" until it became impossible for him to stay. When we told him of our problems (is an ex cop) he was sorry but he could not come up with a single cop (ACT Fed.) that could assist us with our problem, sad indictment of the ACT police, sorry to any who are not as I described, but there are not enough of you to make a difference, regards Frank.

Send a letter to Mr Condon, c/o Courier mail, Bowen hills. Don't turn your back on corruption. It's a cancer, that must be treated, by good citizens.