Thread: Anyone Had A New House Built Between 2010 and 2013

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Why we should buy Australian

Even older news, do you want to talk about cladding on apartments in Southbank?
Docklands apartment fire: hundreds of high-rise towers to be investigated for fire danger

And I could tell you some stories about circuit breakers that don't trip and cause fires. Guess where they are made.

You either pay for quality or pay even more for less quality.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Old news:
Why we should buy Australian

Even older news, do you want to talk about cladding on apartments in Southbank?
Docklands apartment fire: hundreds of high-rise towers to be investigated for fire danger

And I could tell you some stories about circuit breakers that don't trip and cause fires. Guess where they are made.

You either pay for quality or pay even more for less quality.

It would be good if you could put an auto link on all of these threads, referring back to your original thread about why we should buy Australian Mick.

I am a bit confused about this.

When wiring is placed in a house it just sits there and doesn't move.

As I understand it the bad wiring becomes brittle but doesn't fall apart, so if it doesn't move what is the danger?

Many houses went for even a hundred years with old cloth insulation and yes when disturbed some burnt down but generally they didn't unless something happened like overload of the wiring.
My parent's house was built in 1926 and was rewired in about 1970 which is 44years with cloth insulation . I have seen some places with china switches still.
Regards Philip A

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Old news:
Why we should buy Australian

Even older news, do you want to talk about cladding on apartments in Southbank?
Docklands apartment fire: hundreds of high-rise towers to be investigated for fire danger

Mick feel free to delete this thread. I only heard about it two days ago from an email from Middys, as I have an account with them.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

As I understand it the bad wiring becomes brittle but doesn't fall apart, so if it doesn't move what is the danger?

My understanding is that it actually does fall apart.

And perhaps worth pointing out that the cloth/rubber wiring was installed in conduit, which protected it from moving and from physical impact, as well as limiting the amount of air that could get to it. With the modern cabling, the outer sheath has to provide the same function as the conduit used to.

John

Originally Posted by PhilipA

I am a bit confused about this.

When wiring is placed in a house it just sits there and doesn't move.

As I understand it the bad wiring becomes brittle but doesn't fall apart, so if it doesn't move what is the danger?

Many houses went for even a hundred years with old cloth insulation and yes when disturbed some burnt down but generally they didn't unless something happened like overload of the wiring.
My parent's house was built in 1926 and was rewired in about 1970 which is 44years with cloth insulation . I have seen some places with china switches still.
Regards Philip A

All old news,as others have said.

The insulation on the cable perishes,falls off, and the copper is exposed,not real good if you get up in the ceiling to do something.

Actually live cables with perished insulation are not good and extremely dangerous wherever they are.

Just to be a bit thorough I had a look at the ACCC site which has videos of the cable failure mode.

https://www.accc.gov.au/update/infin...e-its-too-late

You will see that they bake the cable in an oven and then bend it 180 degrees before it breaks and it snaps in one break, it does not disintegrate. I wonder how many times cable will be disturbed and then bent double after being in a hot place such as a roof.


So maybe that is why not many people are lining up to have their wiring replaced.
Regards Philip A

Degradation of the insulation over time is the issue,and it will be accelerated with heat.
Heat in a ceiling space is often at least 20 degrees above ambient.

Many electrical contractors that used the brand all of a sudden had new ABN numbers