Thread: If a person committed suicide

I have battled severe depression since 2003. I have been medicated. I have tried to shoot myself with a friends hand gun but it was loaded with fake bullets. I tried gassing my self and my best mate snoopy in my car in 2007, the day my father died. It didnt work because as i was told by the Dr. I was used to breathing exhaust fumes, and as a mechanic, i had higher tolerance. My blood work showed i should have been uncoscious but i wasnt. I feel so sorry for trying to take my mate with me. I snapped out of the want to kill myself when my gf phoned me to tell me she felt our unborn son move for the first time that very day. They increased my meds. I was on such a high dose the Dr. had to get approval for the script. They told me the reason for my attempts was coz i stopped taling the meds. I had to wean myself of them very slowly. In 2010 i started to do just that. Im now med free but learning daily how to deal with the things that life throws up at me. I think im doing well. I battle depression daily but im dealing with it in my way without drugs. Ive had a terrible childhood and was bullied daily at school and in my work places over the years. Its all in the past. A past im not proud of. But im dealing with it. Its very painful just writing this but im doing it. If not for my best mate id be dead. I know it. But im needed here still so im still here. Thanks for all the other posters here.

Just a note... if someone has commited suicide they cant "live" to regret it. But thier friends are the ones that feel the pain and the loss.

Cheers, Rod

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My wife and her family are "the ones left behind".
My wife's father took his own life when she was 19. He was mid fifties, an accounting manager who also suffered from bipolar.
He was fine when on his medication, but had a habit of once he felt fine to stop taking them, this led to a breakdown in relationships with his wife and 4 kids. Although at work and in public he would maintain a normal accountant facade.
He's now missed out on meeting and seeing 11 of his 12 grandkids and the oldest has had 2 great grandkids.
My wife still misses him, and his actions have left scars in her and her siblings.
Try and get help if you need it because your only here for a short time as it is and those left behind will carry on but you will miss all the best things and not be there when they need a hand.

Originally Posted by 67hardtop

I have battled severe depression since 2003. I have been medicated. I have tried to shoot myself with a friends hand gun but it was loaded with fake bullets. I tried gassing my self and my best mate snoopy in my car in 2007, the day my father died. It didnt work because as i was told by the Dr. I was used to breathing exhaust fumes, and as a mechanic, i had higher tolerance. My blood work showed i should have been uncoscious but i wasnt. I feel so sorry for trying to take my mate with me. I snapped out of the want to kill myself when my gf phoned me to tell me she felt our unborn son move for the first time that very day. They increased my meds. I was on such a high dose the Dr. had to get approval for the script. They told me the reason for my attempts was coz i stopped taling the meds. I had to wean myself of them very slowly. In 2010 i started to do just that. Im now med free but learning daily how to deal with the things that life throws up at me. I think im doing well. I battle depression daily but im dealing with it in my way without drugs. Ive had a terrible childhood and was bullied daily at school and in my work places over the years. Its all in the past. A past im not proud of. But im dealing with it. Its very painful just writing this but im doing it. If not for my best mate id be dead. I know it. But im needed here still so im still here. Thanks for all the other posters here.

Just a note... if someone has commited suicide they cant "live" to regret it. But thier friends are the ones that feel the pain and the loss.

Cheers, Rod

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I feel for you mate. It's hard to open up and talk about it because of the stigma and often lack of understanding of people on the side lines.

I know what it's like to be prescribed high doses of meds, I too was on, The psychiatrist would have to ring get authority to prescribe the dosage and get an authority number. I would sit there and listen to him give the reason to other person on the other end of the phone as extreme depression.
My depression was caused by having chronic pain. Having pain 24/7 takes it's toll.
The medication had terrible side effects, I reckon It did me more harm.
than good. I questioned it every time with him and his answer was the same every time, I would be worse without it. More is better , I'm a big bloke ( physically I was told so I could handle it.)
I would have uncontrollable fits during my so called sleep hours and Heather would cop an unintentional fist or 2 during the night, I was always fighting some one in my sleep and yelling abuse at some one.I was being attacked by others in my mind during my sleep.
I was in a daze during the day and couldn't think straight
I Stopped going to the head shrink and weaned myself of the meds, I was addicted to them and I had very bad withdrawal symptoms, I actually just wanted to die, the withdrawal symptons were really that bad.
My GP told me off and said i should have done it under hospital supervision. I Know stuff was not going well with the meds and no body would listen to me, I was just a patient and they were the so called experts and knew better.
When you suffer bad enough and your loved ones around cop all the crap from you (which is unintentional and you have no control over it) it further adds to depression.
Unless some one has been through it themselves they can't really understand what it's like and how it eats you up inside. Mental illness is just like a vicious cancer.

I got referred to another psychiatrist, this guy was a professor, he listened to my concerns, He modified my Meds to a different type. There was an immediate improvement, it had benefits of allowing me uninterrupted sleep and helped with the pain that kept me awake at night
I also have psychologist, who I see monthly, there I can ventilate , have a cup of tea with , An hour a month is my outlet.

I knew there was something wrong , and went and sort a second opinion as my concerns were not listened to and address by the 1st psychiatrist.

My advise is that if you feel things are not improving go and get another opinion, don't give up.

Pain is certainly very draining. Chronic pain is a physical problem so I wonder what the underlying problem was and if it could have been fixed.
Chemical imbalances can cause depression, of course. I've known several cases of people who were on meds, felt they were OK and could stop taking the meds. and then spun out. Some were bipolar. I concluded people should not stop taking their meds unless their doctor approved.
In some cases, taking meds for life is better than the consequences of not taking the meds. My wife is on certain meds for life, not for bipolar but, for other reasons (her body can't process some things). She and I both know when she is due for another dose. No meds and she gets depressed.


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Originally Posted by carlschmid2002

One of my big concerns at the moment is the response from DVA when dealing with veterans who are struggling. I am currently dealing with DVA myself to get some conditions recognised whilst I am still serving and I am horrified at how they operate. I still have a job and free medical but once you are discharged you have no support at all. They recently lost a whole file of mine. After doing my own detective work it was found after 12 months. I am dealing with a hearing issue and not PTSD or something serious but I am genuinely shocked at their incompetence. They continue to post mail to old addresses even after you change it. You have to request a call back online and sometimes they will call you back but from an unlisted number and then they give a generic callback number that puts you on hold for hours. They will never give you a desk number so you can deal with one individual. Veterans of recent conflicts are taking their own lives. I an understand their feeling of hopelessness when dealing with an organisation like DVA. I have signed a petition for a Royal Commission into DVA but I know it will never happen because there are no votes in it.

I have been dealing with DVA since 2002. It has been a roller coaster ride, the general consenus is DVA will stonewall you, hoping you go away, or worse. If you don't have a good advocate, forget it. Don't try to do it on your own, too many loopholes to fall through. I've found one of the best, and it makes all the difference. Good luck, don't give up.

Originally Posted by bob10

I have been dealing with DVA since 2002. It has been a roller coaster ride, the general consenus is DVA will stonewall you, hoping you go away, or worse. If you don't have a good advocate, forget it. Don't try to do it on your own, too many loopholes to fall through. I've found one of the best, and it makes all the difference. Good luck, don't give up.

As I said my issues are minor but I really worry about the young vets that have faced horrible things and have to deal with them. I have been in for a while and I know how to make a fuss when required. You are right about the advocate though and I have seen good ones and bad ones. I have seen young soldiers who are getting discharged for medical reasons and be let down by their chain of command and DVA. I don't have the stats on hand but I can dig them up but the rate of suicides is quite scary in young veterans.

I spent 9 weeks at Toowong Phsyc. hospital doing a day course, "coping with PTSD". On the course were two young soldiers, totally messed up. One had attempted suicide, one wanted to kill anyone who upset him. The angry man calmed down a bit, the sad man , at the end , was still sad. Since then I've joined the VVAA, and believe me a large focus on what they do is the welfare of younger veterans. It is almost like the only people genuinely concerned about veterans welfare is fellow veterans.

Having said that, where DVA excels is in the payment of treatment for various cancers and illnesses deemed to be caused by military service. if you fit the statement of principles for a medical problem, no problem. I've recently had expensive [ and painful ] treatment for sun cancers, and have had an evaluation for asbestos pleural plaques. I'm half deaf, and now am entitled to an expensive hearing aid, that helps with tinnitus.

The biggest problem with veterans of all ages, is they are reluctant to see the medical staff about problems when in the service, and don't get it on their medical records. Let me tell you, if it is not on your medical record , after you leave the service, good luck with getting an injury sustained in service recognised. Seems a no brainer, but how many mates have you heard say," nah, I'll be right.", and soldier on.

this from 2015

Veteran suicides numbers could top 200

A very difficult topic indeed.

Suicide knows no social bounds either. I work in secondary education (private sector in rural Vic), we have had students and parents totally unexpectedly take their lives. The impact it has within schools and the local community is profound.

It saddens me to think that a young person can feel so alone that they see no choice but to suicide.

Drugs and alcohol in country towns are not helping ...


Michael