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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinelli View Post
    Climate change has been going on forever. It has never, ever, ever happened as fast as it is happening now, and it is happening because we keep throwing more CO2 into the atmosphere (primarily). In any case, I talked about mitigating the effects of climate change, not about stopping climate change. Yes, we won't stop that now. We could, however, act to make the effects and the change less than it might be

    I'd like to know what sort of externalities that you think that non-fossil fuel energy sources have that come even remotely close to the cost of mitigating climate change.
    From what I read, the average temperatures seem to have risen about 1.5 degrees in the last century. That may not sound a lot, but it is predicted if we hit 2 degrees, the ice poles will melt, causing the seas to rise further.
    Many experts think humans are changing too slowly to prevent us from hitting a 2 degree rise, so it will inevitably happen because of past bad decisions, and is likely to go well above that. The results could include flooding, more extreme weather events, more land will become desert and agricultural industries will fail in some areas and have to be restarted in other areas. For example, some wine growers are already moving from the mainland to Tasmania, I read.
    Anyway, climate change is a different topic, except that burning coal contributes to its causes.

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    The times are a-changing PDQ, stop using 2010 data.

    Offshore wind is not the only technology to have significantly improved its LCOE this year: onshore wind's global benchmark estimate is $68 per MWh for the second half of 2016, some 16% below the first half of the year. Onshore wind is already cost-competitive with coal and gas-fired generation in many countries.
    https://about.bnef.com/press-release...offshore-wind/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Anyway, climate change is a different topic, except that burning coal contributes to its causes.
    And so does burning bunker oil transporting the wind powered electricity generators from Germany to Australia.
    Don't forget the coal used in smelting and refining the metals used in these wind powered electricity generators.
    Add to that, we are not replacing like for like. Thermal is so much more reliable than wind and PV solar.
    When looking at an overall system, frequency, regulation, losses, stability and a whole lot of other stuff need to be considered.
    That is why Germany is currently building new coal fired power plants. Wind and PV solar only just doesn't cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    The sailboat will certainly need less fuel than the tinny.


    Actually it won't...

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    The old interconnector will be working hard today.

    According to the Aneroid site output for the whole of SA is under 10% and zero for most wind farms.
    Regards Philip A

    http://energy.anero.id.au/wind-energy
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    Good job Hazelwood is still running.


    Yep. The wind farm I pass on my way to work wasn't doing much this morning.
    Second time this month. As we get into summer, I suspect it will be happening more often.


    I find it interesting, with the recent storms in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria, they had local blackouts but the state didn't go down.


    And Mildura had a tornado!

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    Taylor's across from Waikerie had no power for days after the tornado

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    AFAIAC Hazlewood should not have been closed without a viable "no cost increase" alternative for the people of Vic. The 300% Climate "levy" imposed by the Vic Govt, costing the operators an extra $21M P.A., did nothing to improve their desire to keep it open.
    Pickles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    From what I read, the average temperatures seem to have risen about 1.5 degrees in the last century. That may not sound a lot, but it is predicted if we hit 2 degrees, the ice poles will melt, causing the seas to rise further.
    Many experts think humans are changing too slowly to prevent us from hitting a 2 degree rise, so it will inevitably happen because of past bad decisions, and is likely to go well above that. The results could include flooding, more extreme weather events, more land will become desert and agricultural industries will fail in some areas and have to be restarted in other areas. For example, some wine growers are already moving from the mainland to Tasmania, I read.
    Anyway, climate change is a different topic, except that burning coal contributes to its causes.
    Everyone forgetting about the dinosaurs?.....poor buggers should of shut down their brown coal boilers, unless your silly enough to think they came in pairs on a ship and we have only been about 7000years here.

    Climate will change, hopefully wipe the lot of us out and the earth will continue on a cycle of change

    Super critical coal fired boilers, nuclear reactors or black outs? That's simply how it's going to be moving forward

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    We humans do seem to be determined to wipe ourselves out with our own stupidity, like parasites on a long-suffering planet. There was a TV series about that. I think it was called After Humans.

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