Thread: DISCIPLINE THESE DAYS

I always think that if I'm belting the kids then I have the problem, NOT them.

Kids are difficult, don't come with instructions & change through their young lives. So we need to constantly be adjusting the way we deal with them & how we use discipline.

Our kids are warned twice then they loose something for a while, computer game console, motor bike, school excursion, tuck shop on Thursday etc.

It doesn't always work but generally it does & we reward as well as punish with time on the Tablet or some small item.
Currently SWMBO has introduced a system where when the kids are nice to each other their name is written on a list beside a number, at the end of the week 1 number is drawn & that kid gets extra tuck shop money.

I reckon being a parent is just about the hardest job there is & most people (not all) are pretty much getting it close to right.

Like a lot of parents we think our kids are little Terrorist but when they go out or are in a social setting everybody complements us on their general behaviour & manners. What? Our Kids?
Must be "Domestic Terrorists!"

if you are a parent, just keep doing what you think is right & keep doing your best while not forgetting You have a life as well.

Jonesfam
PS We have a Teenager now - that's a whole new ball game!

So today i had to do a report on what exactly happened,as did the officers that were involved.

Apparently the kid will probably get a thirty minute talking to by a young psychologist.

It seems most of them are in their early to mid 20's just out of Uni.

Well experienced,it seems

I will probably never find out exactly what happens,if anything, as it will be kept confidential.

Things have certainly changed over the years....

IMHO not for the better,but maybe i am from the old school.

As for my life experience,i was the eldest of four boys,born over a period of five years.We were absolute shockers,very difficult to control.I am 100% sure without the very strict discipline from my parents, some of us would have ended up in big trouble with the law.

Ask any of us today,and we all agree,the best thing that ever happened to all of us was that strict discipline.

Originally Posted by Chops

I understand what your saying, but therein lays the problem,, let's just concentrate on what his past has been,,, surely there'll be something there we can blame it on. I wonder if the officer had reported the incident, which he should have anyway,, if the kid then had, what supposedly little liberties he has, then taken away from him. More than likely not, because as we all know, you can't treat people like that, so says our do-gooders.

I also understand what you're saying, but rehabilitation is not about blame or punishment.
If he's going to change he has to have some understanding of why he is the way he is, so he can choose a better way.
Every day I have to encourage young people to make better choices and understand why good choices get good results and bad choices have bad consequences. That's a path to rehabilitation.
There are no quick answers, its a long and winding road, as parents know.

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Originally Posted by jonesfam

PS We have a Teenager now - that's a whole new ball game!

LOL, the best is yet to come mate.

Originally Posted by scarry

Working at a youth centre today,a kid of around 15yrs old is walking along with an officer,and we are working with another officer,in a fenced off area,about 2m from the locked van.

The kid picks up a handful of stones out of the garden and hurled them at my van.He then walks along another three meters,grabs another handful of stones and does it again.

Did the officers say anything,no not a word.

I say to the kid,are you right mate?He replies go and get #@&%$ed you @#$%&,etc,etc,a big torrid of abuse.

I didn't reply,as if the situation had escalated,we would have been thrown off the site,blamed for the whole incident and possibly banned from site for good.

Talking to the officers,that we know quite well,as we do a lot of work at the site,it appears the inmates get no discipline at all.None,zilch.

They smash anything they can get hold of,fight continually and don't have too much respect for anything.

In my opinion,a very bad situation,as they are not being rehabilitated at all.

If they are not being disciplined at all,how can they ever fit into society?

Quite obviously my opinion is completely wrong.

Those well paid people with their university qualifications know better....

Disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful.
And ya know why that little oxygen thief did that,...again,....and again?...Because he knows that nothing at all will happen to him. If it takes a good belting, then give it to him,....there has to be a reason for this kid to know that if he plays up, something unpleasnt, something He won't like, will happent to him, and will keep happening until he stops doing whatever it is He's doing.
Of course I'm aware there's a few on here that don't agree with me,...."softly softly" is what they like,....well let me tell ya, it ain't working in Melbourne,...anyone hear about the Apex gang.
I NEVER "HIT" my son, but I did smack him on the bottom, or on the back of his legs a couple of times, and it was, only a couple of times. After that, there was no need, because He knew that if He simply behaved like his Mum & Dad did, there was no worries.
It's not just smacking, and I have no problem at all with a smack, NOT to the head, but I do not agree with hitting.
Of course this isn't the first time I've spoken about this. AFAIAC there are too many do-gooders in this World, and we are all paying the price,..."softly softly",..yeah right.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Of course this isn't the first time I've spoken about this. AFAIAC there are too many do-gooders in this World, and we are all paying the price,..."softly softly",..yeah right.
Pickles.

Agree completely,as do the officers at these centres,and not just the youth centres either,also the main jails.
The strange thing is these officers know the centres are to soft,many other people do as well,but no one is listening.I recently spoke to an officer that worked at one of the biggest jails in the US for many years,he can't believe what it is like here.Over there they have 'real' jails,if you know what i mean,and also mandatory 'real' boot camps.Many of the jails are in the deserts.

Compared with the US,here we have a holiday camp type system.

You want to see the food they get here,it is amazing,in the US they get a few 'rations'.

We have been contractors working in these centres for over 25yrs.During that time i have seen myself how things have got softer and softer for the inmates,or YP's(young people) as they call them in the youth centres.

I can give you one example,if we arrived to work in an inmate area,20yrs ago the crims would be sent out immediately into the excersice yard and locked in there until we had finished.If they had to be in there for an hour or so,bad luck.If it was a hot day,bad luck.If they were half way through lunch or breakfast,bad luck.

Today,we have to wait around,until they have had their lunch or breakfast,had a drink of milk,bla,bla,wasting our friggin time.
And then eventually they are in the yard,locked up.Then after 10minutes,they start complaining,want to come in for a drink,need to go to the toilet,etc,etc.

And this is only one small example of how things have changed,for the worse IMHO.

Originally Posted by Bearman

LOL, the best is yet to come mate.

Been there done that,exciting times.....

Bring back Freo goal...

I had a friend go into there a few years before it closed, they are still goody two shoes... Scared the crap out of them...

Exactly what prisons should do too..

Now the desert idea is great, we need a canal dug from the Kimberley directly south down the border.. With Argyle and Fitzroy supplying it, should have plenty for Adelaide as well as Perth.. No more water restrictions, no more complaining crims, what more do we need...
Crims be too busy working to complain, those that cant swing a hammer or pick, can grow food for the workers...All problems solved...

Come to think of it, be a good place to retire, got something to do and lovely country out there... :-)