Thread: DISCIPLINE THESE DAYS

this is bull****.....I got a pretty good hiding from my father at times for irellavant things that ****ed him off.....all he did was really **** me off....I didn't even go to his funeral.

as for teachers , many of them caned me and it only created hate towards teachers, none of it changed my behavoiur or made me a better person . probably only got their rocks off hitting little kids.

btw , had no problem with female teachers nor got "punished" by them.

Spot on Squizzy, too many politically correct procedures in place for most people to to take action too,, in public anyway. No point locking kids I their rooms, they'll just play on their phones or game machines. No lesson learnt.
Everything has a pecking order, and the human races is fast disappearing.

"Stop that snacking immediately.... it leads to fat bastards everywhere.
I think most kids get their shocking behaviour from the examples they're shown by parents and other kids who don't get any punishment.
We've got an 8 year old rellie who is an absolute shocker at school and at home or at rellies places. Teachers no longer attempt to control him.
Then we look at his dad..... cops regularly turf him out of the house with a "24hr Do Not Return" ticket. Gets drunk, uses drugs, uncontrollable temper, sometimes works but his attitude eventually stops that, wastes any money he can get his hands on.
Has had taxpayer funded counselling for all of it and still offends. Any wonder the kid is a little turd?
AlanH.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

as for teachers , many of them caned me and it only created hate towards teachers, none of it changed my behavoiur or made me a better person . probably only got their rocks off hitting little kids.

Yep discipline without the respect or understanding can sometimes be the easy way out for us guys as it comes too naturally. If your training a horse would you get sufficient outcomes by punching it in the head but by no means great, on the opposite side of the same coin you could give it all the love and nurturing you like but that won't train it either. Like most things it needs a balanced approach= not just discipline alone (ruling with an iron fist)and not just nurturing alone ("Mummy would prefer you didn't stab her with scissors sweetie, I know your just expressing your feelings but it is interrupting my Facebook time dear")

Originally Posted by squizzyhunter

If your training a horse would you get sufficient outcomes by punching it in the head but by no means great, on the opposite side of the same coin you could give it all the love and nurturing you like but that won't train it either.

They run faster when you whack them with a stick, though.

Never make a threat unless you're prepared to do it. Kids aren't stupid. Violence is only a way of getting their attention - there are better ways. Actions have consequences - make the consequences real and predictible. Set boundaries, give reasons, and keep your words. If your kid behaves like a brat, remember that behaviour has been learned, so look in the mirror.

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When my kids were young I would smack them. However I did not have to do this very often as the threat of a smack was enough.

They both knew that the threat of a smack was real. Too many parents threaten the smack but never actually do it. And as has been pointed out, they soon cotton on to that.

Both my children, now aged 25 and 23 have both turned into fine well behaved and well mannered young adults.

We were strict but fair in their upbringing and a few years ago they thanked us for this, as they can now see how it has benefited them.

When I was young, mum used to use the strap when we were naughty and for serious naughtyness dad would use the cane. I think I only ever had the cane once.

This punishment never did me any harm. The old saying "spare the rod spoil the child" to me is spot on.

Ramblingboy. Your case sounds to me more like child abuse, not just punishment for being a naughty boy.

Originally Posted by squizzyhunter

Yep discipline without the respect or understanding can sometimes be the easy way out for us guys as it comes too naturally. If your training a horse would you get sufficient outcomes by punching it in the head but by no means great, on the opposite side of the same coin you could give it all the love and nurturing you like but that won't train it either. Like most things it needs a balanced approach= not just discipline alone (ruling with an iron fist)and not just nurturing alone ("Mummy would prefer you didn't stab her with scissors sweetie, I know your just expressing your feelings but it is interrupting my Facebook time dear")

what a load of ****ing ****.

my daughter trains horses with zero discipline.

I have raised 3 children with zero discipline.

I have trained 3 dogs with zero discipline.